Thanks! On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Jason Grout <[email protected]> wrote: > Makes sense. I've put in a PR to JupyterLab with this change so we can see > what it looks like: https://github.com/jupyter/jupyterlab/pull/543/files > > I also switched the clauses to use numbering, like on the opensource.org > website template. > > Jason > > > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 11:12 PM Brian Granger <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Jason Grout <[email protected]> wrote: >> > For a specific project, say JupyterLab, should we "JupyterLab >> > contributors", >> > to indicate that those individuals who contributed to that specific >> > project >> > are the ones that hold copyright? Or should we give the generic "Project >> > Jupyter Contributors" >> >> Because people tend to move fluidly between different >> repos/subprojects, I would prefer the generic "Project Jupyter >> Contributors". Also this more easily covers situations where we >> re-organize code between repos/subprojects, as tends to happen >> sometimes... >> >> Cheers, >> >> Brian >> >> > >> > Also, FYI, the Wikipedia text has the place for 'copyright holders' as a >> > templated term, perhaps that's where we got the other text: >> > >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses#3-clause_license_.28.22Revised_BSD_License.22.2C_.22New_BSD_License.22.2C_or_.22Modified_BSD_License.22.29 >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Jason >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:50 AM Damián Avila <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> +1 to use the real BSD. >> >> >> >> >But if using the plural "Contributors" text is clearer than the >> >> > collective "Team", that's fine, too, and changes no meaning. >> >> >> >> +1 too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2016-07-25 8:40 GMT-03:00 MinRK <[email protected]>: >> >>> >> >>> +1 to the change. Not quite sure how we drifted there, but it may well >> >>> have been my doing during the split. We have defined in our IPython >> >>> license >> >>> file "The IPython Development Team is the set of all contributors to >> >>> the >> >>> IPython project," so it is already synonymous with Contributors, and >> >>> has >> >>> never been an entity. But if using the plural "Contributors" text is >> >>> clearer >> >>> than the collective "Team", that's fine, too, and changes no meaning. >> >>> >> >>> -MinRK >> >>> >> >>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Fernando Perez <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi all, >> >>>> >> >>>> I recently noticed that there's something funny about the way our >> >>>> license is worded compared to the BSD template... >> >>>> >> >>>> Our licenses say >> >>>> >> >>>> "Neither the name of JupyterLab...", "... name of Jupyter...", etc... >> >>>> >> >>>> But the original BSD template reads >> >>>> (https://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause) >> >>>> >> >>>> "Neither the name of the copyright holder..." >> >>>> >> >>>> and the term "copyright holder" isn't a variable to template over, >> >>>> just >> >>>> the words "copyright holder". In our case, that is "Project Jupyter" >> >>>> in >> >>>> some licenses, and I'd argue it should read "Project Jupyter Team" to >> >>>> indicate that it's the *people*, not the abstract/legal project >> >>>> entity... >> >>>> >> >>>> I didn't realize that our licenses had changed in this way, but in a >> >>>> sense we are NOT using BSD! We've made a subtle but important >> >>>> change, as >> >>>> we've basically added a trademark barrier in the third clause (hence >> >>>> this >> >>>> question the person is asking), whereas the original third clause is >> >>>> about >> >>>> *endorsement of promotion*. >> >>>> >> >>>> I had never noticed this, but I would argue that our licenses should: >> >>>> >> >>>> 1. All read: >> >>>> >> >>>> Copyright... The Project Jupyter Development Team. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> This would convey the fact that we're talking about the people who >> >>>> wrote >> >>>> the code. It's our shorthand for the union of all `git shortlog >> >>>> -sne`... >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> 2. Actually use the real BSD license text, not some subtly modified >> >>>> version. That means that other than filling in the placeholders, we >> >>>> leave >> >>>> the body of text unmodified. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> What do people think? >> >>>> >> >>>> Cheers, >> >>>> >> >>>> ps - sorry that I'm sending this and going offline, the discussion >> >>>> started on the council list and Jason correctly pointed out that this >> >>>> is >> >>>> really an open topic... Reposting here for reference, hopefully >> >>>> others can >> >>>> provide feedback in my absence. >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) >> >>>> fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) >> >>>> fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contact me here for any direct mail >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >>>> Groups "Project Jupyter" group. >> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> >>>> send >> >>>> an email to [email protected]. >> >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >>>> >> >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAHAreOoQjN%2BA41qoyXy5ZUUjL_kL9g8Xd2RVMdWvJ_eW62wToQ%40mail.gmail.com. >> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >>> Groups >> >>> "Project Jupyter" group. >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> >>> an >> >>> email to [email protected]. >> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >>> >> >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAHNn8BUJ0FC4HqTkPM6Cd0L0F6HUQdCOozPNgW3YLP%2Br3fVc-g%40mail.gmail.com. >> >>> >> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Damián >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups >> >> "Project Jupyter" group. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> >> an >> >> email to [email protected]. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >> >> >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAH%2BmRR0QUXo6SQ0CKL6FFzM6vBufO5kNZ2r4Bob11kfSjKxLQg%40mail.gmail.com. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "Project Jupyter" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> > an >> > email to [email protected]. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> > >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAPDWZHwtPrzZwT6%3D11rZxoMr2RbOx%2BOiJXojd%2BXHB90draDNNg%40mail.gmail.com. >> > >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> -- >> Brian E. 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