On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Jason Grout <[email protected]> wrote: > For a specific project, say JupyterLab, should we "JupyterLab contributors", > to indicate that those individuals who contributed to that specific project > are the ones that hold copyright? Or should we give the generic "Project > Jupyter Contributors"
Because people tend to move fluidly between different repos/subprojects, I would prefer the generic "Project Jupyter Contributors". Also this more easily covers situations where we re-organize code between repos/subprojects, as tends to happen sometimes... Cheers, Brian > > Also, FYI, the Wikipedia text has the place for 'copyright holders' as a > templated term, perhaps that's where we got the other text: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses#3-clause_license_.28.22Revised_BSD_License.22.2C_.22New_BSD_License.22.2C_or_.22Modified_BSD_License.22.29 > > Thanks, > > Jason > > > > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:50 AM Damián Avila <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> +1 to use the real BSD. >> >> >But if using the plural "Contributors" text is clearer than the >> > collective "Team", that's fine, too, and changes no meaning. >> >> +1 too. >> >> >> >> 2016-07-25 8:40 GMT-03:00 MinRK <[email protected]>: >>> >>> +1 to the change. Not quite sure how we drifted there, but it may well >>> have been my doing during the split. We have defined in our IPython license >>> file "The IPython Development Team is the set of all contributors to the >>> IPython project," so it is already synonymous with Contributors, and has >>> never been an entity. But if using the plural "Contributors" text is clearer >>> than the collective "Team", that's fine, too, and changes no meaning. >>> >>> -MinRK >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Fernando Perez <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I recently noticed that there's something funny about the way our >>>> license is worded compared to the BSD template... >>>> >>>> Our licenses say >>>> >>>> "Neither the name of JupyterLab...", "... name of Jupyter...", etc... >>>> >>>> But the original BSD template reads >>>> (https://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause) >>>> >>>> "Neither the name of the copyright holder..." >>>> >>>> and the term "copyright holder" isn't a variable to template over, just >>>> the words "copyright holder". In our case, that is "Project Jupyter" in >>>> some licenses, and I'd argue it should read "Project Jupyter Team" to >>>> indicate that it's the *people*, not the abstract/legal project entity... >>>> >>>> I didn't realize that our licenses had changed in this way, but in a >>>> sense we are NOT using BSD! We've made a subtle but important change, as >>>> we've basically added a trademark barrier in the third clause (hence this >>>> question the person is asking), whereas the original third clause is about >>>> *endorsement of promotion*. >>>> >>>> I had never noticed this, but I would argue that our licenses should: >>>> >>>> 1. All read: >>>> >>>> Copyright... The Project Jupyter Development Team. >>>> >>>> >>>> This would convey the fact that we're talking about the people who wrote >>>> the code. It's our shorthand for the union of all `git shortlog -sne`... >>>> >>>> >>>> 2. Actually use the real BSD license text, not some subtly modified >>>> version. That means that other than filling in the placeholders, we leave >>>> the body of text unmodified. >>>> >>>> >>>> What do people think? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> ps - sorry that I'm sending this and going offline, the discussion >>>> started on the council list and Jason correctly pointed out that this is >>>> really an open topic... Reposting here for reference, hopefully others can >>>> provide feedback in my absence. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) >>>> fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) >>>> fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contact me here for any direct mail >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Project Jupyter" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAHAreOoQjN%2BA41qoyXy5ZUUjL_kL9g8Xd2RVMdWvJ_eW62wToQ%40mail.gmail.com. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Project Jupyter" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAHNn8BUJ0FC4HqTkPM6Cd0L0F6HUQdCOozPNgW3YLP%2Br3fVc-g%40mail.gmail.com. >>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Damián >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Project Jupyter" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAH%2BmRR0QUXo6SQ0CKL6FFzM6vBufO5kNZ2r4Bob11kfSjKxLQg%40mail.gmail.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Project Jupyter" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAPDWZHwtPrzZwT6%3D11rZxoMr2RbOx%2BOiJXojd%2BXHB90draDNNg%40mail.gmail.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Brian E. 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