+1 to use the real BSD.

>But if using the plural "Contributors" text is clearer than the collective
"Team", that's fine, too, and changes no meaning.

+1 too.



2016-07-25 8:40 GMT-03:00 MinRK <[email protected]>:

> +1 to the change. Not quite sure how we drifted there, but it may well
> have been my doing during the split. We have defined in our IPython license
> file "The IPython Development Team is the set of all contributors to the
> IPython project," so it is already synonymous with Contributors, and has
> never been an entity. But if using the plural "Contributors" text is
> clearer than the collective "Team", that's fine, too, and changes no
> meaning.
>
> -MinRK
>
> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Fernando Perez <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I recently noticed that there's something funny about the way our license
>> is worded compared to the BSD template...
>>
>> Our licenses say
>>
>> "Neither the name of JupyterLab...", "... name of Jupyter...", etc...
>>
>> But the original BSD template reads (
>> https://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause)
>>
>> "Neither the name of the copyright holder..."
>>
>> and the term "copyright holder" isn't a variable to template over, just
>> the words "copyright holder".  In our case, that is "Project Jupyter" in
>> some licenses, and I'd argue it should read "Project Jupyter Team" to
>> indicate that it's the *people*, not the abstract/legal project entity...
>>
>> I didn't realize that our licenses had changed in this way, but in a
>> sense we are NOT using BSD!  We've made a subtle but important change, as
>> we've basically added a trademark barrier in the third clause (hence this
>> question the person is asking), whereas the original third clause is about
>> *endorsement of promotion*.
>>
>> I had never noticed this, but I would argue that our licenses should:
>>
>> 1. All read:
>>
>> Copyright... The Project Jupyter Development Team.
>>
>>
>> This would convey the fact that we're talking about the people who wrote
>> the code.  It's our shorthand for the union of all `git shortlog -sne`...
>>
>>
>> 2. Actually use the real BSD license text, not some subtly modified
>> version.  That means that other than filling in the placeholders, we leave
>> the body of text unmodified.
>>
>>
>> What do people think?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> ps - sorry that I'm sending this and going offline, the discussion
>> started on the council list and Jason correctly pointed out that this is
>> really an open topic... Reposting here for reference, hopefully others can
>> provide feedback in my absence.
>>
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