GitHub actually uses the Wikipedia-style template, so whenever you set an automatic LICENSE it uses that (see here <https://github.com/ebolyen/default-bsd-3-clause/blob/master/LICENSE>). The page Fernando linked also states that the 3rd clause was changed, my interpretation being that the "original" BSD-Modified/3-Clause was just the omission of the 4th clause which made it incompatible with GPL. It does look like the 3rd clause has since been revised, but I have no idea what the legal implications are.
-Evan On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 9:18:51 PM UTC-7, ellisonbg wrote: > > Thanks! > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Jason Grout <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > Makes sense. I've put in a PR to JupyterLab with this change so we can > see > > what it looks like: https://github.com/jupyter/jupyterlab/pull/543/files > > > > I also switched the clauses to use numbering, like on the opensource.org > > website template. > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 11:12 PM Brian Granger <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Jason Grout <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> > For a specific project, say JupyterLab, should we "JupyterLab > >> > contributors", > >> > to indicate that those individuals who contributed to that specific > >> > project > >> > are the ones that hold copyright? Or should we give the generic > "Project > >> > Jupyter Contributors" > >> > >> Because people tend to move fluidly between different > >> repos/subprojects, I would prefer the generic "Project Jupyter > >> Contributors". Also this more easily covers situations where we > >> re-organize code between repos/subprojects, as tends to happen > >> sometimes... > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Brian > >> > >> > > >> > Also, FYI, the Wikipedia text has the place for 'copyright holders' > as a > >> > templated term, perhaps that's where we got the other text: > >> > > >> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses#3-clause_license_.28.22Revised_BSD_License.22.2C_.22New_BSD_License.22.2C_or_.22Modified_BSD_License.22.29 > > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > > >> > Jason > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:50 AM Damián Avila <[email protected] > <javascript:>> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> +1 to use the real BSD. > >> >> > >> >> >But if using the plural "Contributors" text is clearer than the > >> >> > collective "Team", that's fine, too, and changes no meaning. > >> >> > >> >> +1 too. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> 2016-07-25 8:40 GMT-03:00 MinRK <[email protected] <javascript:>>: > >> >>> > >> >>> +1 to the change. Not quite sure how we drifted there, but it may > well > >> >>> have been my doing during the split. We have defined in our IPython > >> >>> license > >> >>> file "The IPython Development Team is the set of all contributors > to > >> >>> the > >> >>> IPython project," so it is already synonymous with Contributors, > and > >> >>> has > >> >>> never been an entity. But if using the plural "Contributors" text > is > >> >>> clearer > >> >>> than the collective "Team", that's fine, too, and changes no > meaning. > >> >>> > >> >>> -MinRK > >> >>> > >> >>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Fernando Perez <[email protected] > <javascript:>> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Hi all, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I recently noticed that there's something funny about the way our > >> >>>> license is worded compared to the BSD template... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Our licenses say > >> >>>> > >> >>>> "Neither the name of JupyterLab...", "... name of Jupyter...", > etc... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> But the original BSD template reads > >> >>>> (https://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause) > >> >>>> > >> >>>> "Neither the name of the copyright holder..." > >> >>>> > >> >>>> and the term "copyright holder" isn't a variable to template over, > >> >>>> just > >> >>>> the words "copyright holder". In our case, that is "Project > Jupyter" > >> >>>> in > >> >>>> some licenses, and I'd argue it should read "Project Jupyter Team" > to > >> >>>> indicate that it's the *people*, not the abstract/legal project > >> >>>> entity... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I didn't realize that our licenses had changed in this way, but in > a > >> >>>> sense we are NOT using BSD! We've made a subtle but important > >> >>>> change, as > >> >>>> we've basically added a trademark barrier in the third clause > (hence > >> >>>> this > >> >>>> question the person is asking), whereas the original third clause > is > >> >>>> about > >> >>>> *endorsement of promotion*. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I had never noticed this, but I would argue that our licenses > should: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> 1. All read: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Copyright... The Project Jupyter Development Team. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> This would convey the fact that we're talking about the people who > >> >>>> wrote > >> >>>> the code. It's our shorthand for the union of all `git shortlog > >> >>>> -sne`... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> 2. Actually use the real BSD license text, not some subtly > modified > >> >>>> version. That means that other than filling in the placeholders, > we > >> >>>> leave > >> >>>> the body of text unmodified. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> What do people think? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Cheers, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> ps - sorry that I'm sending this and going offline, the discussion > >> >>>> started on the council list and Jason correctly pointed out that > this > >> >>>> is > >> >>>> really an open topic... Reposting here for reference, hopefully > >> >>>> others can > >> >>>> provide feedback in my absence. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> -- > >> >>>> Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) > >> >>>> fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when > swamped!) > >> >>>> fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contact me here for any direct mail > >> >>>> > >> >>>> -- > >> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >>>> Groups "Project Jupyter" group. > >> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >> >>>> send > >> >>>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > >> >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <javascript:>. > >> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAHAreOoQjN%2BA41qoyXy5ZUUjL_kL9g8Xd2RVMdWvJ_eW62wToQ%40mail.gmail.com. > > > >> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >>> Groups > >> >>> "Project Jupyter" group. > >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > >> >>> an > >> >>> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > >> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <javascript:>. > >> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> >>> > >> >>> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAHNn8BUJ0FC4HqTkPM6Cd0L0F6HUQdCOozPNgW3YLP%2Br3fVc-g%40mail.gmail.com. > > > >> >>> > >> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Damián > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >> Groups > >> >> "Project Jupyter" group. > >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > >> >> an > >> >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <javascript:>. > >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> >> > >> >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAH%2BmRR0QUXo6SQ0CKL6FFzM6vBufO5kNZ2r4Bob11kfSjKxLQg%40mail.gmail.com. > > > >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups > >> > "Project Jupyter" group. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > >> > an > >> > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <javascript:>. > >> > To view this discussion on the web visit > >> > > >> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAPDWZHwtPrzZwT6%3D11rZxoMr2RbOx%2BOiJXojd%2BXHB90draDNNg%40mail.gmail.com. > > > >> > > >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Brian E. 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