On 9 August 2017 at 10:46, Elvis Angelaccio <[email protected]> wrote: > On the other hand, I see new contributors on IRC all the time who ask "hey, > how do I build $app?" or "hey, how do I contribute to KDE?". So maybe > different teams have just different preferences. So I'm still not convinced > that a new contributor is scared away because we use IRC as primary > communication channel.
I think this is the survivorship bias though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias Sure you still get some new contributors. How many are you missing, though? I personally loved (and somehow still love) IRC, for many reasons which Eike mentioned. But my WikiToLearn adventure made me understand that new people are really scared away by these tools. On our project only, we would have gotten 1/10 of the participation at best if we asked people to join a IRC channel. No matter how much we love it. > [...] > To be fair, they would also choose github over our current git > infrastructure. This is a new thread entirely, but incidentally also something we should also think about. Why many KDE developers choose github instead of scratch KDE repositories to start new software, where it could happily be hosted within KDE infrastructure? I have been personally touched by Paul Adam's words on the sense of community which we have somehow dispersed with our migration to git, and I think we should no longer ignore the community dynamics around our SCM. Is our infrastructure now a liability or is it added value, for new developers? Are we still attractive? Do we provide value to new developers, or are we a burden? What can we do to alleviate it without loosing our identity? Think about it in an open way, but don't answer here - it's of course material for a new thread. Bye, -Riccardo -- Pace Peace Paix Paz Frieden Pax Pokój Friður Fred Béke Heddwch Hasiti Lapé Hetep Malu Mир Wolakota Santiphap Irini Peoch שלום Shanti Vrede Baris Rój Mír Taika Rongo Sulh Mir Py'guapy 평화 和平
