Hi Collin,

On 09/24/2016 05:55 PM, Collin Anderson wrote:
> I do lots of DC/DC stuff with power dissipation one of my primary concerns - 
> so I stitch and I stitch A LOT.  
> 
> These are just some honest thoughts from someone who has done boards with a 
> several hundred stitched vias on a board no bigger than 25mmx50mm.
> 
> So, stitching that is done in any way using the actual router is unbelievably 
> painful.  

Just to alleviate your pain a bit: some time ago there has been added an
option to lock tracks/vias and it is respected by the router.

Regards,
Orson

> 1.  Vias can normally be pushed and shoved.  Which is great for routing vias, 
> but both annoying and extremely (but pointlessly) computationally expensive 
> if the PNS router gets too close.  If the PNS router were James Bond, it's 
> arch nemesis is the evil but charismatic Dr. Giant Grid of Vias Right Next to 
> Each Other But With Gaps To Move Around A Bit.  
> 
> 2.  Vias that behave in all the ways they behave from an interface standpoint 
> are not very conducive to stitching.  Stitching does not involve routing at 
> all, you're stitching two copper planes together.  There is no advantage I 
> can see to using the routing tool/mode to stitching, but several 
> disadvantages. 
> 
> I've yet to see a proposed solution that is faster or easier than having a 
> handful of "via" footprints, which are simply single through holes without 
> any mask layers, and placing one manually, setting the net, and going nuts 
> with copy % paste. 
> 
> The only problem with this is that footprints are also not ideal and will get 
> deleted with other "extra" footprints if you reimport the next list, stuff 
> like that. 
> 
> Via stitching done via the routing tool is just a huge pain in the butt.  
> 
> I do like the idea of automatically connecting unconnected holes that span 
> pours of the same net though.  That's a good idea.  What would be awesome, in 
> my opinion, is doing this but in a way where one is not limited to Vias 
> specifically, or perhaps an alternative stitch tool with different behaviors 
> than the normal routing tool.
> 
> I know a few times, I've forgotten to set the net for my initial via 
> footprint, or set it to the wrong one, only to realize this after placing 200 
> of them.  Painful mistake that could be solved with something like this :). 
> 
> On Sep 24, 2016, at 6:06 AM, Heikki Pulkkinen <hei6m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> This is my suggestion to via stitching without any tracks. It connects 
>> unconnected vias in different copper pours witch has same netcode. Adding 
>> vias is normal routing process without routing tracks. Start - Change Layer 
>> - End. Tool that do those things automatically would be good, so you can add 
>> all vias in same layer. After adding vias, run "Fill or Refill All Zones" 
>> that "Clenup tracks and vias" do not remove partly connected vias.
>>
>>
>> Heikki
>> <diffs_via.txt>
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