Gabriel Sechan wrote:


From: "Christian Seberino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Sun, March 25, 2007 11:39 pm, Gabriel Sechan wrote:

> By
> asking for a "voluntary" prayer, you're forcing everyone there, students
> and
> spectators alike, to stand by and wait while you pray. Sorry, you don't > have a right to shove your beliefs down my throat. Actually, no, no I'm
> not
> sorry.

You seem to be reacting to a "voluntary prayer" as if it was a mandatory
prayer. One could argue this is going too far the other direction. Where does it stop? Must we make it illegal to display Christmas decorations on
front lawns because someone "might be offended" ?


If I'm forced to stand there in order to continue with a school sponsored event, its not voluntary, it has become mandatory. Now if the same student wished to hold a prayer meeting before the event, he's quite free to.


No one is making you stand there. No one is forcing you to listen. Whatever this ceremony is, this student feels compelled to take a moment to publicly thank and praise his god. Whether you think that god exists or not is your problem. Now if the student attempts a fillibuster, that's a different matter altogether.

(In the Bible, Jesus says that whoever professes Him befor man, He will profess him before the angels of God.)


When does this kind of vehement so called "separation of church and state
thinking" cross the line into "anti-Christianity thinking"?

WHy do you think its all about Christianity? I have the same opinions wether its a Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Shinto, Wiccan, or other prayer. Your martyr syndrom is showing. It never ceases to amaze me how Christians can be the vast majority of this country, yet still yell about being repressed all the time.


It never ceases to amaze me that non-Christians are completely unaware of the dark forces of fallen angels (devils, working behind the scenes) and the agenda they have against, first, the Christian who spreads the gospel and, second, against the Jew. *Especially* amazing to me is how unwittingly non-Christians are used by these devils like pawns.

> Sexually repressed? The fact that it considers premarital sex immoral,
> homosexuality immoral, and by many interpretations any position but
> missionary immoral.

Paul in the New Testament offers a solution for people who need sex...
1 Cor 7:9 "it is better to marry than to burn with passion"  The Bible's
solution is *marriage*. It never says to be repressed. You may not like
the Bible's solution but it certainly does *not* command repression.

That is repression. The fact that they allow a narrow outlet (oh, and you better make it right the first time, because you can't take that choice back) doesn't stop it from being repression. Most repressive political regimes have 1 outlet, its useful for their control of their populace. No outlet means something will eventually burst. Giving an outlet means it can be controlled.

Gabe


A true cynic. You just see "them" allowing a narrow outlet, not God. If it truly is man allowing it, I could see your point. But you don't even allow for the possibility that it's God allowing such a "narrow outlet".

But you are not restricted by the teachings of the Bible. So, go ahead, live as hedonistically as you want or as piously as you want. You are bounded only by the law of the land.

And if the God of the Bible is not real, then you probably have nothing to worry about in death. And even if He *is* real, you don't have to worry about it now. Heck, don't even worry about it later. Hey, for that matter, don't let it phase you even in the slightest. Even if it *is* real, you can will it away. By the sheer force of your will, you can make it not so.


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