DJA wrote:
Christian Seberino wrote:
On Wed, March 28, 2007 3:26 am, DJA wrote:
Christian Seberino wrote:
On Tue, March 27, 2007 3:00 pm, DJA wrote:
Can you point me to one specific
Bible (last time I was in a Christian bookstore, there were dozens -
all
different)?
Those are all different translations of the same ancient documents.
No they're not. Granted, some are very similar, but most contain enough
difference in them to often say quite different things in various
places. I have looked and read. They're in English. I am quite
proficient in it. I know what the words mean. Whether those words mean
what the author intended is irrelevant. To the reader, the words say
what the words say. And I'm telling you different Bibles are different.
If I pick up a dozen Bibles, all different English translations, all
having different wording, some Subtlety different, some vastly, then
its
quite apparent there was no scholarship involved. Just a bunch of
authors who felt compelled to give a "proper" interpretation of god's
word.
Please give a short example of a "vast difference" between
translations. And I don't mean vast differences in word choices... I
mean so different
that the meaning is completely different.
Foreign language translation is not a simple thing. The fact that there
are different translations is a *good thing*. You can read multiple
translations. And no they are not completely different and
contradictory
to one another. Some try to be very literal word for word
translations. Some try to be more of a paraphrase. This is no
secret. Pick what type
of translation you prefer.
Chris
Sorry, I don't think any amount of further explanation on my part is
going get my point across to you. I've made my points on several
areas; I think they're clear. No one is convincing anyone to change
their views (something I've tried to avoid). I think we'll just have
to agree to disagree. I'm okay with that. I've been a little better
informed in a number of areas, although my own beliefs remain
essentially the same. Time for me to move away from the thread.
So far, I don't remember you saying anything definitive. Classic
avoidance is all I've seen from you. (I'm not trying to be insulting.
But I think every time you've been asked for clarification or any kind
of proof, you have deflected it and avoided it.)
dja - "The different Bible versions are vastly different and contradictory."
cs - "Please show me an example."
dja - "You wouldn't get it anyway."
The way I see it, you don't want to have to back up your previous
attacks. You'd rather just attack the validity of the Bible, defer to
some unknown scholars, and then pack up before you have to put up.
Cheap shots.
How pathetic.
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