On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 02:02:12PM -0700, Andrew Lentvorski wrote:
> John Oliver wrote:
> 
> >The gnome-session package was missing.  What happened to it?  Why did
> >gnome work, and then not work?  Who knows?  But installing gnome-session
> >(and it's utterly ridiculous family of dependencies... someone ought to
> >get slapped, hard)
> 
> Well, I feel that way about *all* the modern window manager things.
> 
> It's almost impossible to actually build Gnome or KDE from a .tgz file 
> anymore.  You need a packaging system to take care of the myriad 
> dependencies.

Yabbut... what the hell does cdrecord have to do with a desktop manager?

This is like how the "base" install of Red Hat (and, I believe, CentOS)
includes stuff like bluetooth, isdn, pcmcia, haldaemon, cups, wireless
stuff... WTF?  A base install should be just that, a bare minimum.  My
kickstart includes:

@ base-x
@ base
-4Suite
-a2ps
-acpid
-alchemist
-alsa-lib
-alsa-util
-anacron
-apmd
-aspell
-audiofile
-autofs
-bluez-bluefw
-bluez-hcidump
-bluez-libs
-bluez-util
-cups
-cups-libs
-dapl
-dhcpv6_client
-dmraid
-esound
-foomatic
-ghostscript
-ghostscript-fonts
-hal
-hal-cups-utils
-ibutils
-irda-utils
-isdn4k-utils
-libgnomecups
-libibcommon
-libibumad
-libibverbs
-libmthca
-librdmacm
-libsdp
-linuxwacom
-lvm2
-mdadm
-NetworkManager
-Omni
-Omni-foomatic
-openib
-OpenIPMI
-OpenIPMI-libs
-opensm-libs
-pcmcia-cs
-pnm2ppa
-rp-pppoe
-rsh
-samba-common
-samba-client
-specspo
-swig
-synaptics
-system-config-printer
-system-config-printer-gui
-system-config-soundcard
-ttfprint
-ttmkfdir
-vnc-server
-wireless-tools
-wpa_supplicant
-wvdial
compat-db
compat-gcc-32
compat-gcc-32-c++
compat-libstdc++-296
libaio
libidn
make
gcc
glibc
gnome-session
openmotif21
seamonkey
setarch
sysstat

And even *that* doesn't result in a truly "base" install, since there
are still many dependencies on sound related packages, for example.

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