I have to agree..  I have had people purchase stuff online for cheaper and
then call me to install for them.  Then they complain about the fee I charge
for the install of the equipment that they bought.  I do have to make a
living too...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Schultz Comm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Pat Thornton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "KXT Help" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: KX-T: making lemon-aide


> Dave and all,
>
> Please excuse this rambling, but I *HAVE* to have my say.........
>
> I could probably make a pretty good buck doing minor
surgery.........there's
> not much to it, my overhead would be NOTHING compared to MD's, no
insurance,
> no office, no help, etc. The licensing people might be a bit pissed but
who
> cares??
>
> Now I'm not ACTUALLY comparing myself to a medical doctor, BUT I did have
to
> spend 8,000 hours as an apprentice/journeyman to satisfy my states
licensing
> requirement.... even though I was an industrial arts major in college, did
> bench repair for Radio Shack for several years, and had over 10 years
> experience as a federally licensed broadcast engineer... for the
"privilege"
> of installing phone equipment.
>
> I can also probably fix or diagnose a phone system problem in short
> order....'ya pay for what we know sometimes...not the time spent actually
at
> the customers premises............you don't even want to KNOW how much it
> actually costs to "roll a truck" compared to how much we charge for a
> service call (which includes 1 hour of on site labor...$75.00)......
>
> If you can buy it cheaper...and install and maintain it ...God bless
> 'ya....We were talking about the folks who "shop" for it and then expect
> someone to install it for next to nothing.
>
> FYI...the big boys who move millions of dollars of product pay a bit less
> for it than a smaller interconnect company does.......I just can't compete
> wit K Mart as far as pricing........but I *CAN* blow them out of the water
> with service!!!!....and that costs  $$$
>
> Just one 20 year veteran interconnect's opinion.
>
> Best, Jim Schultz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Toppin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pat Thornton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "KXT Help" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:02 AM
> Subject: RE: KX-T: making lemon-aide
>
>
> > From a buyers perspective, you could get your price in line with the
> > ablecomm's and the www.kx-td.com prices.  My local Panasonic dealer
> > wanted about 35% more than what I could buy it from Michael for. They
> > also wanted 800 to install, and I had already run all the wire.  So it
> > was basically hang, punch, & program.  I ended up doing it all myself
> > as I thought $200 per hour was unreasonable.  I ended up buying the
> > system on ebay and some stuff from Michael who was very helpful.  I
> > realize most won't go throught the learning curve I had to, but I'm
> > glad I did.  I can change stuff I need to as the issues arise, etc.
> > This list was very helpful, and I made some great contacts who in the
> > future I would use as I would RATHER NOT do it myself.  Those of you
> > who take advantages of internet sales, and hook up with the people who
> > are selling them, could probably make a pretty good living as I'm sure
> > it's a big market.  Some jobs pay better than others in ALL work,
> > sometimes you don't make as much as you'd like, but I've found
> > sometimes you need to take the work that is in front of you.  You may
> > also want to take into consideration that if you are referred as an
> > installer from an internet site, you are spending no dollars to get the
> > business.
> >
> >
> >
> > David Toppin
> >
> > The Pelletizer Group, Inc.
> > 483 Phinneys Lane
> > Centerville, MA 02632
> >
> > (508) 790 4245
> > (508) 775 9917   fax
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > www.pelletizer.com  <---- see our complete, searchable inventory
> >
> > Please inform us of any surplus equipment you may have available.
> >
> >
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