I can see how cross-and-pin helps, but what if you're for example making
tape, or just a piece in a Torchon pattern that doesn't have pins
wherever two pairs meet?  It seems like in this case if you let the
workers go off the sides, all of the correct tensioning will be lost...

I think I'll enjoy trying to change patterns from CT to TC or back - I'm
like Tamara, I really like figuring out how everything works.  

Weronika
(Caltech, Pasadena, California)

On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 04:21:46PM -0700, Patricia Dowden wrote:
> Hi Weronika,
> 
> Exactly.  And that is why ending with a Cross and then a pin is so advantageous on a 
> bolster.  By definition, no pair should be twisted when you start a new row because 
> the stitch starts with a twist instead of ending with a twist.
> 
> Also, to respond to an unanswered question, lace that is made with stitches that end 
> in a twist (CTCT) and lace that is made with stitches that end in a cross (TCTC) are 
> indistinguishable.
> But you can't change from one scheme to the other without a lot of forethought.
> 
> Peculiarly, I work the motifs in point ground CTCT, but I work the ground itself 
> TTTC pin.  
> 
> There are as many answers to questions as there are lacemakers, so you will 
> definitely find a way that suits you.
> 
> Patty
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Weronika Patena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 4:12 PM
> To: Patricia Dowden
> Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: [lace] Preferred Pillow Shapes?
> 
> 
> Thanks for all the pillow info - I'll need it soon too! ;-)
> 
> I'm slightly confused on bolster pillows.  I've seen pictures online
> which had whole doilies made on bolster pillows, which requires working
> in different directions.  I can see that it's easy to work downwards on
> either side of the bolster, but how do you deal with having to work
> along the bolster on the top?  Don't all of the bobbins try to fall down
> to the sides?  
> 
> Weronika
> (Pasadena, California)
> 
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 01:32:20PM -0700, Patricia Dowden wrote:
> > Janet wrote:
> > 
> > Another newbie question for you all.  I am looking at starting to order my 
> > equipment and was wondering what people prefered for a pillow shape and which is 
> > considered most versatile.
> > 
> > Thank you all in advance for your differing opinions!  :-)
> > 
> > ==================================================
> > 
> > Hi Janet,
> > This is a very timely question for me.  I have lined up a couple of large Torchon 
> > patterns (if you can call Eva-Lissa Kortelahti patterns Torchon) that I want to 
> > do.  
> > 
> > Some Spiders have mentioned that a cookie pillow past a certain size may be 
> > difficult or uncomfortable to work on larger pieces.  And I have taken that into 
> > consideration.
> > 
> > It seems to me that a rectangular piece on the order of 20-30 inches wide would 
> > best be handled on a nice long, large diameter bolster.  No moving up, and the 
> > working area is right in front of you.  Now I just have to make one.  Bolsters are 
> > not normally found in this size all made up.  So it looks like I am going to go 
> > into the bolster making business.  
> > 
> > I looked into acquiring an ethafoam cylinder that are used in physical therapy, 
> > but the diameters that are available are fairly pricey and not big enough just to 
> > throw a cover on and make lace.  If I have to pad the roll, I might as well just 
> > make it from scratch.  So I'll start with a piece of cement form cardboard tube 
> > and pad it with old wool blankets. 
> > 
> > Patty Dowden
> > 
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