Thanks for the pinning off description.  And for the accidental pickot
description, too <g> - I didn't know you could do them by twisting the
pin instead of twisting the threads around.

A big part of my problem with using lace is that I dress exclusively in
T-shirts and shorts (I do own one dress for when I really need to dress
up, but that's it), and my ears aren't even pierced...  I also can't sew
at all - I could probably put an edging on a hanky, but forget about
adding lace to anything as complicated as clothing...  I guess doilies
and random ornaments are my best bet.  And jewelry for other people <g>. 

Also, it'll hopefuly be 30 or so years until I'm a grandma... <g>

What are the different uses of different types of lace and thread?

Weronika
(Caltech, Pasadena, California)


On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 11:06:10PM -0400, Tamara P. Duvall wrote:
> On Apr 23, 2004, at 19:30, Weronika Patena wrote:
> 
> >I can see how cross-and-pin helps, but what if you're for example 
> >making
> >tape, or just a piece in a Torchon pattern that doesn't have pins
> >wherever two pairs meet?  It seems like in this case if you let the
> >workers go off the sides, all of the correct tensioning will be lost...
> 
> Nope. Traditionally, you work the open method (ending your stitch with 
> a cross, bobbins untwisted) on pillows like the bolsters, or the 
> Spanish uprights, where the bobbins fall off (or down) the pillow and 
> are likely to get mixed up. The same gravity which makes them fall off, 
> keeps them tensioned. But, if you're really worried about getting them 
> mixed up (and, at the beginning, it *is* a worry <g>), pin off like Bev 
> said.
> 
> You pin off whole batches of pairs -- preferably "logical sections". 
> I.e., say, 6prs which make a trail on one pin, the workers and passives 
> of the footside on another pin, etc (in Russian Tape pinning off is not 
> only un-necessary, it's cumbersome, because it happens too frequently).
> 
> Pinning off
> 
> Use long, but reasonably thin (less damage to the pillow and the 
> covering fabric) pins (until you get yourself some divider pins, the 
> so-called "corsage" pins, available from places like WalMart, Michaels, 
> etc are fine). When you've finished a "logical section", and while all 
> the bobbins are still spread flat in front of you... Um... I'm 
> right-handed and pinning off is much easier for me to do on the right 
> than it is on the left, so that's what I'll describe, OK? Pinning off 
> on the left is a mirrored action (I'm not so good with mirrors, 
> including driving backwards, but maybe you are)
> 
> Slide the pin, horizontally, under all the threads of your section, 
> right-to-left. Twist the pin down, then up over the threads forming a 
> loop.  Carry the whole bunch you've "captured" off to the side, out of 
> the way, and stick the pin in. When your copy of Cook's Practical 
> Skills in BL arrives, you can see an illustration of the process; it is 
> the same movement as the first part of a double picot, but you're 
> picking up many threads instead of one, and pinning farther away from 
> your work.
> 
> When that bunch of pairs needs to come into play again, unpin, carry 
> the whole bunch to where they need to be, withdraw the pin and the 
> bobbins will fan out, ready to work. Miraculously, if you withdraw the 
> pin horizontally, after the bobbins themselves are where they're 
> supposed to be, they're likely to arrange themselves "just so", without 
> losing/acquiring twists, *even if* they got tangled while hanging off.
> 
> I use that method almost all the time when working on a roller pillow. 
> There isn't a whole lot of room on the "apron", the finer edgings are 
> likely to have in excess of 30 pairs, and I like to have my "pairs in 
> use" well fanned out... That's also one of those situations where a 6" 
> leash is better than a 4" one; you need longer threads if you're going 
> to "scoop up" a whole bunch of bobbins and pin them well out of your 
> way. Unless... you're willing to lengthen and shorten them constantly, 
> which I'm too lazy to do :)
> 
> >I think I'll enjoy trying to change patterns from CT to TC or back
> 
> I had a lot of trouble at first, switching to the open method (first 
> learnt from books which used the "closed" method -- end your stitch 
> with all the twists needed).  In the end, like it better, though don't 
> use it all the time. If you're working with fine threads, it's easier 
> to see that a pair has suddenly acquired a twist where there shouldn't 
> have been any, then to notice that it has acquired one extra, and now 
> has two instead of one. But it has a downside, also: even in the open 
> method, you still start your cloth/linen stitch with a C, so you're 
> constantly shifting between the two starts.
> 
> What helped me... I was, at that time, counting the movements (still 
> do, sometimes). Since I'd always started with a C, it became "one", and 
> so firmly embedded in my mind, that I couldn't change it. So, to start 
> with a T instead, I went to music, and started counting: "and, one, 
> two, three"... :)
> 
> Re: using your lace.
> 
> The subject comes up occasionaly, since most of us like to *make* it 
> but either don't relly like to wear it at all, or else can't imagine 
> making yards, and yards, and yards, yawn... of the same pattern...
> 
> Samrah's (Cinde in Southern California - good to have you with us, 
> Cinde) solution is a clever one, since she's using short lengths and 
> different widths (before she gets terminally bored, she's onto 
> something new), and she'll have something to show for it (and suitable 
> to wear at demos in the future). I used to use my samples (intermixed 
> with various, lace-related pins) to decorate a special pocketbook I 
> made, but have run out of space on it, and will have to think of some 
> other "dumpster" :) David (Collyer, aka "Downunder") is an orchestra 
> director -- he decorated his "fraque" (English?) with his lace and made 
> a lace bow tie to go with it. Another friend has a gadzillion shirts, 
> each with a different technique on the pocket band...
> 
> I think all of us make a lot of lace which we give away. Mostly, it's 
> small projects like Christmas ornaments, bookmarks, earrings, etc which 
> are either "traded" (Christmas exchange, for example) or used as 
> fundraisers for charities, but not always. Wedding hankies, garters and 
> ring pillows, and baby bonnets and booties make excellent personal 
> gifts. Grandmas will go to "any length" for christening robes (Clay 
> even learnt Bucks for the purpose <g>)
> 
> You'll need at least a collar or two, to wear at the banquets, once you 
> hook up with a lace group and start attending "events".
> 
> A lot depends on the thread thickness you like to work with and the 
> style of lace you prefer to make -- each lends itself to somewhat 
> different uses -- but I never found it difficult to get rid of my lace; 
> indeed, the first few years, my DH used to complain that I'd spend 
> 10-12 hrs a day at the pillow (instead of tending to his comfort) but, 
> when he wanted to brag a bit about my abstruse passtime (and explain 
> his un-ironed shirts), there was never anything to show...
> 
> Just this past week, a 7yr-old visiting "small fry" (youngest daughter 
> of my stepson) came up to me -- after having eyed my wire paisley 
> covetously all evening -- and asked: "Bunia, can you make me one like 
> that, when you have the time?" Thankfully, I happened to have 4 samples 
> and will only need 3 for the article, so she got it the next day 
> (though only after she helped me clean up after the b-day party; I'm 
> mean <g>)
> 
> -----
> Tamara P Duvall
> Lexington, Virginia,  USA
> Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
> http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/
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