"Anh (Ly) Vuong" wrote:
>
> XML is an open standard (w3.org), and it should be judged on features
> and capabilities; not on who have XML products!
Ly
My intent is not to dismiss XML, or to imply that it's a Microsoft
brainchild. It's just that whenever Microsoft gets behind an 'open' or
'cross-platform' standard alarm bells go off. Call this the rantings of
a paranoid if you will, but the usual Microsoft ulterior motives seem to
be at work here: Co-opt a standard, proprietize it with closed
'enhancements', integrate it into the largest installed base, thus
converting an open standard into a closed proprietary one by virtue of
market share. I'm not aware of Microsoft 'tinkering' with XML yet, but
is it not merely a matter of time? Sun was able to prevent this
happening to Java because of Sun's monetary resources. TCP/IP resisted
due to an installed base bigger than even Microsoft. I hope XML is as
lucky (maybe that's an excellent reason to use XML even more).
>
> I am favor the XML because of following capabilities:
> - ASCII texts, easy to display, process & transmit
> - It can handle structured data
> - Well defined documents
> - It integrates well with various software procducts
> - Many implementations, on many platforms & variety of languages
> (Java, C, C++, Perl, Python...)
Yes, I agree, all very good attributes.
I'll get down off my soapbox now, and hope I didn't send this thread to
off topic.
Regards
Paul
>
> Cheers,
> Ly
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> Paul Batozech wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I was thinking... (this is odd :) and I came with one more idea about home
> > > user interface, and it goes like this...
> > >
> > > if we manage to create a XML schema or some other LEAF standart to store
> > > filter rules and other config data, I could code a win32 app client to
> > > provide a easy UI for rules creation, log view, and overall config for home
> > > routers. that way the average home user, simply deploys a LEAF image, goes
> > > to his/her win machine, installs the app and uses some wizards to configure
> > > the router.
> > >
> > > that wizard would change the default password, apply interface IP changes,
> > > act on the rule set, config the log options, daemons, test internet
> > > connection, config traffic shaping (when fully supported), etc...
> > >
> > > users run this wizard on upon the LEAF system installation, and use the app
> > > subsequently for minor changes, log viewing, package updating, etc..
> > >
> > > this win client would connect via ssh.
> > >
> > > all this providing that LEAF is able to store his configs on some sort of
> > > standart like XML.
> > >
> > > comments please...
> >
> > All
> >
> > This is a good idea, especially for a target audience of typical 'Joe
> > home user with a new cable/DSL connection', however I'd be opposed to
> > doing it in XML more or less on philosophical grounds. I only go with
> > proprietary Micro$oft solutions as a last desperate resort:) As LEAF is
> > an open source project some other mechanism, seems much more
> > appropriate. I find the quote below, from Petreley's column on
> > LinuxWorld, sums it up quite nicely.
> >
> > "In fact, I'd bet people refer to XML as a technology these days only
> > because Microsoft has succeeded in its bizarre public relations campaign
> > to position XML as a replacement for Java. Microsoft undoubtedly hopes
> > that by the time people notice that XML versus Java is a crackbrained
> > comparison, Microsoft will have already shoved Java out of the picture
> > and replaced it with the C# language. Good luck, Microsoft."
> >
> > The whole text can be found at:
> > http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2001-01/lw-01-penguin_4.html
> >
> > I'm no Java evangelist, there are other cross-platform solutions as
> > well. Php, Python? Pedro's idea is a good one, I cringe at the thought
> > of tainting things with M$ though.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > >
> > > pedro
> > >
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