Hallo Ly
>
> I am thinking along the line of using XML to "describe" the network &
> configuration. Then that XML document can then be processed by another
> system to pull together the necessary modules & kernel to build the disk
> image. So basically, there are two separate functions, which XML
> document is served as the bridge:
>
> - The configure system
> Starts from new or reads in an existing XML document, it then
> guides the user to define his/her network & and helps to select the
> correct modules. The product of this system is an XML document.
>
> - The LRP image generator system
> Reads the XML document to gather the correct modules & generates
> the disk image. User can then download the image & place it on the
> floppy & boot!
>
> Am I close?
>
<answer>so close that you probably <compliment>described it
better </compliment> than i did in the long post </answer>
<greeting> cu </greeting>
Eric ;))
>
> Cheers,
> Ly
> -----
>
> Eric Wolzak wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I was thinking... (this is odd :) and I came with one more idea about home
> > > > user interface, and it goes like this...
> > > >
> > > > if we manage to create a XML schema or some other LEAF standart to store
> > > > filter rules and other config data, I could code a win32 app client to
> > > > provide a easy UI for rules creation, log view, and overall config for home
> > > > routers. that way the average home user, simply deploys a LEAF image, goes
> > > > to his/her win machine, installs the app and uses some wizards to configure
> > > > the router.
> > > >
> > > > that wizard would change the default password, apply interface IP changes,
> > > > act on the rule set, config the log options, daemons, test internet
> > > > connection, config traffic shaping (when fully supported), etc...
> > > >
> > > > users run this wizard on upon the LEAF system installation, and use the app
> > > > subsequently for minor changes, log viewing, package updating, etc..
> > > >
> > > > this win client would connect via ssh.
> > > >
> > > > all this providing that LEAF is able to store his configs on some sort of
> > > > standart like XML.
> > > >
> > > > comments please...
> > >
> > I agree that it would be a could idea to be able to describe a router
> > /firewall in a standard format for example XML which is becoming a
> > kind of standard interface in lot of other automats.
> > The problem is that the description is not that easy as it would
> > seem at the first glance
> > see thread about the firewall design (for a week or so)
> >
> > > All
> > >
> > > This is a good idea, especially for a target audience of typical 'Joe
> > > home user with a new cable/DSL connection', however I'd be opposed to
> > > doing it in XML more or less on philosophical grounds. I only go with
> > > proprietary Micro$oft solutions as a last desperate resort:) As LEAF is
> > > an open source project some other mechanism, seems much more
> > > appropriate. I find the quote below, from Petreley's column on
> > > LinuxWorld, sums it up quite nicely.
> > I don't think xml is an "invention " from Micro$oft, because it is a
> > derivate of sgml. Something which was used in Unix environment
> > much more :)
> > The good thing about xml is that it is readable and understandable
> > by everybody who has a basic knowledge of the subject. Designing
> > is something different ( like reading a book is easier than write it;) )
> > Don't see it as a programming language it is at the most a
> > database.
> > >
> > > "In fact, I'd bet people refer to XML as a technology these days only
> > > because Microsoft has succeeded in its bizarre public relations campaign
> > > to position XML as a replacement for Java. Microsoft undoubtedly hopes
> > > that by the time people notice that XML versus Java is a crackbrained
> > > comparison, Microsoft will have already shoved Java out of the picture
> > > and replaced it with the C# language. Good luck, Microsoft."
> > The (best) server sided application for XML work on Java
> > I am not that an expert to defend the word best ;)
> > > The whole text can be found at:
> > > http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2001-01/lw-01-penguin_4.html
> > >
> > > I'm no Java evangelist, there are other cross-platform solutions as
> > > well. Php, Python? Pedro's idea is a good one, I cringe at the thought
> > > of tainting things with M$ though.
> > >
> > > Paul
> >
> > I played with the idea of using the php from our Website as an
> > interactive Interface to create for example the modules.conf and
> > parts of Network.conf, and give the user a kind of a shopping list ,
> > like in a online shop.
> >
> > I do see a security problem in creating and remote controlling the
> > LEAF box , as far as it changing the running configuration
> > concerns.
> > If i can do it, somebody else could do it too. ( to be more precisely
> > if I can do it everybody else can do it ;))
> >
> > I personally would prefer to create a setup script, plattform
> > independent and describing my router in detail. This could be done
> >
> > This is the script we could exchange for support and so on,
> >
> > >From this script the functionallity should be created by a compiler
> > or whatsoever to run on the box itself.
> >
> > I am afraid that if we would run the "setup script" on the router we
> > would need a lot of intelligence and programms on the box with the
> > problems size, attackability ( is this a real word ? ).
> >
> > The way to create Setup script could be platform independent, f.e.
> > by php on a server or as Pedro said with a GUI as far as it is
> > under Windows or GTK and so on.
> >
> > btw in germany there is a small linuxrouter" with a win-gui for
> > configuration and "remote control" over a running daemon on the
> > box (www.fli4l.de)
> > Just my two cent
> > Eric Wolzak
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > > It's a Linux world....well, it oughta be.
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