On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:28, Eric Spakman wrote:
> > I think my evolution idea has died. My last few attempts to bring new
> > leaf branches in, or create new ones within our project have failed. The
> > bering-uclibc team seems to have gained enough support that other
> > derivations fail to succeed within leaf. We haven't had a new branch in
> > years. So...
> >
> > I propose we move to a monolithic development model, and give
> > bering-uclibc the leaf name. They won as best of breed.
> >
> I don't agree with you, there is still room for evolution.
Eric,
Where?
2.6 kernel <-- discouraged
initramfs <-- discouraged
Alpine <-- discouraged
I can go on, but I think you see my point.
> In my opinion evolution doesn't only mean bring new leaf branches in
> and let others die (when people abandon a specific LEAF distro and
> move on to a "better" one which seems to be happened in the past).
No, but sprouting new branches is a major part of the development model
I described. I don't see that happening anymore. However, I do see
fragmentation appearing again. Projects that in the past would have been
welcomed here are creating new homes instead.
Maybe it's SF, maybe it's me. I'm not sure what the problem is,
but there is one. :-(
> This is a very natural process I think, a LEAF branch developer gets
> frustrated when the momentum is switching from one branch to the other
> and users abandon its branch. This is more revolution than evolution
> :-)
>
> A new project doesn't have to mean someone creating all the packages and
> functionality again, it doesn't have to be all about the "core". There is
> room enough for projects creating webconf interfaces (like Nathan
> explained this doesn't have to be for Bering-uClibc exclusively) or
> creating images for specific functionality (using the big repository of
> available packages).
>
> It's just what you define as "evolution".
Just missing the main ingredient. :-(
> We are not the dominant branch because we gained enough support, we are
> the most active and didn't abandon our project, that's the only thing.
All true, and exactly why I made the proposal above.
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