Hi Mike,

>> I don't agree with you, there is still room for evolution.
>
>Eric,
>Where?
>
>        2.6 kernel <-- discouraged
>        initramfs <-- discouraged
>        Alpine <-- discouraged
>
>I can go on, but I think you see my point.
>
I really don't see your point. Why do you see those things as an improvement, 
what does it 'solve' (and what is Alpine?). Ofcourse we look at things like 
kernel 2.6 and initramfs and we will move on when it gain us something, but one 
step at a time.
I think you point to the wrong kind of 'improvements', those listed are 
technical implementations. It doesn't make things necessarely 'better'. I would 
rather point to things like:

-Webconf
-Easier upgrading
-improve documentation (wiki)
-package management 
-.....

Those are things which are visible to the enduser and increase the user 
experience.

>> In my opinion evolution doesn't only mean bring new leaf branches in
>>  and let others die (when people abandon a specific LEAF distro and
>>  move on to a "better" one which seems to be happened in the past).
>
>No, but sprouting new branches is a major part of the development model
>I described. I don't see that happening anymore. However, I do see
>fragmentation appearing again. Projects that in the past would have been
>welcomed here are creating new homes instead.
>
>        Maybe it's SF, maybe it's me. I'm not sure what the problem is,
>        but there is one. :-(
>
why create new branches which lead to fragmentation? I think the Bering-uClibc 
team created a very nice framework of high quality packages. Instead of 
reinventing the wheel again and again, you could also think of branches as 
using the existing framework to create specific functionality by using the 
existing packages. It's just an higher level view.
There is also room enough for separate projects working on things like webconf 
and package management.
I don't see a reason to compete within the limited room of a project with a 
small userbase. I believe in cooperation to use the limited resources we have 
to improve things with a common goal.

Eric



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