Try reading it. I blamed new labour. I forgot about major's existence and I think you are on thin ice and some sort of Tory boy revisionist if you deny thatcher destroyed communities by rationalising industries.
As a matter of interest I voted fir boris to get rid of ken. I agree about the personal responsibility thing. It's always someone else's fault But seriously.., are you replying tobacco different email? Sent from my iPhone On 9 Aug 2011, at 21:48, "Mark Humphries" <[email protected]> wrote: > Again, bollox. > > The problem with this country is lack of personal responsibility - this > attitude that the state controls everything and owes us all. The removal of > competition at school, the removal of discipline at school. Being able to > lead a comfortable life on the dole - still able to afford to run a car, to > have sky, to smoke 40 tabs a day etc etc. > > The only people to blame for yobs on the streets are the fucking yobs on the > street. How much money has been thrown at community improvement, community > projects in "poor" areas of London? Yet they still take every opportunity > to screw over the rest of us who work for a living. > > As I said before, this generation of yobs are entirely nurtured under > Blair/Brown. > > Maybe if Blair didn't take us into an illegal war in Iraq we might have a > few spare soldiers to get onto the streets and knock this shower of shit > into shape? > > But no, lets blame Thatcher, lets blame Major, lets blame Cameron, lets > blame Boris. > > Yawn. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Anderson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 09 August 2011 20:38 > To: Mark Humphries > Cc: Damian Walsh; leedslist > Subject: Re: [LU] Riots > > I agree in main but timeline starts with thatcher > > There was always scumbags rogues thieves since caveman times. > > But in 80s free enterprise worked... Or me me me became everything at a time > when industries declined or were killed off. Those who couldn't adapt > suffered. > > However these people on benefits no hope no esteem still bred. Next > generation born into poverty life. No aspiration from downtrodden parents > these kids then bred often way too early and some of their kids have too so > you effectively have every living relative coming from this situation and > add in 13 years of new labour holding their hands paying for everything not > expecting anything of them. > > Then add in immigration naturally into poor areas, first and second gen! > > Bingo > > Oh. And we are losing and it's shit > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 9 Aug 2011, at 18:19, "Mark Humphries" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Damian, with respect that is bollocks. >> >> First, there are no "apparently substantiated allegations", and >> second, to try and apportion blame to Boris is just ludicrous. If you >> really must politicise this then blame labour because these scumbags >> grew up, got their education and their values under a Labour government. >> >> I personally believe you always get scumbags in society and the sooner >> we accept that and stop looking for excuses for them, the better. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Damian Walsh >> Sent: 09 August 2011 17:59 >> To: leedslist >> Subject: Re: [LU] Riots >> >> There's been an astonishing amount of Colonel Blimp rubbish spouted on >> the list about these riots. Probably a good thing because at least it >> show how many more of us are now part of the establishment than was ever > true before. >> All we have to do is get the next generation of potential rioters in >> too then there'll be no more problems. >> >> As for the Police. I think thay have much much more power than any of >> their continental European counterparts - the problem isn't there. >> Maybe it's more to do with the loss of the Mets senior leadership over >> the last few weeks plus a massive loss of confidence due to the >> apparently substansiated allegations of corruption at the highest >> levels of the Met. Where is the Mayor too? No leadership = vaccum >> (sp?) = field day for rioters >> >> Damian >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: >> http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: >> http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) > _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
