Again... What email are you replying to because I agreed with you

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On 9 Aug 2011, at 22:00, "Mark Humphries" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> I grew up on council estates.  My parents always worked.  We didn't have a
> phone in the house until 1981.  We didn't own a car.  My first pair of
> football boots were moulded studs, back in the day when moulded studs were
> the poor option.  I didn't have my first pair of "brand" trainers until I
> bought them myself, from my wages, and I had to save up for them.  I didn't
> drink or smoke.
> 
> They expect us to either think these chavs are poor, with their adidas
> tracksuits, calvin klein boxers, gold necklaces, diamond earrings, iphones
> etc etc, or it in some way excuses them for being cunts?
> 
> Most NORMAL people, most POOR people, if they want something they save their
> money and buy it when they have saved up enough money.  They don't think,
> "fuck this, I cant afford a new phone, I will go and mug someone (who has
> saved up themselves to buy it)".  They don't think "I know, I'll go and burn
> a fucking car because I cant afford a car like that".  They don't think, "I
> am going to break in to poundland".  Poundland!!  If that alone doesn't tell
> you everything about why they are doing this.
> 
> Nothing to do with money, nothing to do with poverty, nothing to do with
> jobs or the economy, nothing to do with some kind of social revolution, just
> pure cheap thrills of nicking gear and smashing stuff up.  
> 
> No respect for other peoples property because they expect and demand society
> gives them everything, they think the state owes them everything.  They have
> never had to save for anything, they just get given it or take it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Matt Anderson
> Sent: 09 August 2011 20:26
> To: Damian Walsh
> Cc: leedslist
> Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
> 
> There is no link at all between 15 year old chavs nicking tvs and phones and
> the met's leadership or boris's holiday. 
> 
> That's nonsense. 
> 
> I bet 90% don't know who the mayor is
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 9 Aug 2011, at 17:59, Damian Walsh <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> There's been an astonishing amount of Colonel Blimp rubbish spouted on 
>> the list about these riots. Probably a good thing because at least it 
>> show how many more of us are now part of the establishment than was ever
> true before.
>> All we have to do is get the next generation of potential rioters in 
>> too then there'll be no more problems.
>> 
>> As for the Police. I think thay have much much more power than any of 
>> their continental European counterparts - the problem isn't there. 
>> Maybe it's more to do with the loss of the Mets senior leadership over 
>> the last few weeks plus a massive loss of confidence due to the 
>> apparently substansiated allegations of corruption at the highest 
>> levels of the Met. Where is the Mayor too? No leadership = vaccum 
>> (sp?) = field day for rioters
>> 
>> Damian
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