having posted I then went on waccoe and read the 'we did a mural' threadAboout
third and fourth posts say"Good stuff that.... this club is definitely going
down the right path.. by Gipton white
then from Stevedave
"he club has been brilliant, its worth bearing in mind, 3 succesive ownership
periods has said yes you can come in and do it but just didnt....shall we say
come through the change in th clubs attitude is amazing, they want to work
with fans"
Ok it is just two lads opinions but it backs up my point about fans who are
more in touch with things
Dave
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: Leeds List <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, 2 December 2017, 14:46
Subject: Re: [LU] FT Leeds1 Villa1
I have just read the interview with our 'managing director ' Angus kinnear in
the Square Ball - it is interesting stuff.Reading that and recalling the
interview with Orta a few months back, anyone who does not think things are
heading in the right direction and who does not think things have improved
massively since Bates/GFH/Cellino is really not paying attention.
It really does appear that we are setting down the foundations towards getting
to be a decent Premiership club. We are building for the future and doing
things properly.
Yes, they all talk a good game but as others have said things like buying back
the stadium, LUTV showing games for overseas fans, good ticket offers, talking
and listening to fans groups etc show that, to date, they are backing up their
talk with action
Of course, ultimately, all that counts is what happens on the pitch and even
despite our recent slump , things are better than they have been.We bought well
in the summer, some of the recruits have not (yet) worked out but it takes time
to adjust to a new country and a new club and a new league. Hopefully Felix has
learnt a few hard lessons. Ekuban is now back from injury and Alioski is
finding his feet - 4 goals in 5 games.
From what I have heard and read - Green spat his dummy out and was causing
trouble when he was no longer first choiceWood - we offered him a big rise in
wages and said if we did not get promoted we would sell him for half his real
value so I don't know what else we could do. We are a Championship club and
players want to play in the Premiership, so to try and compare us to Wenger at
Arsenal is just silly (not quite sure what the Wenger stuff alludes to in any
event)
I get it that fans want us to get promoted and that for overseas fans it is
hard to accept where we are, but as someone who goes to all the home games and
speaks to fans who go home and away etc, and therefore, I believe have 'my
finger on the pulse' a bit more than someone thousands of miles away, I am
happy with the way things are going and have a great deal of confidence in our
future
dave
From: Simon McNally <[email protected]>
To: Michael Benjamin <[email protected]>
Cc: Richard Naef <[email protected]>; Leeds List
<[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, 2 December 2017, 14:17
Subject: Re: [LU] FT Leeds1 Villa1
I think that’s a harsh judgment on AR.
He’s bought the ground back and recruited some decent players. We also seem to
be rebuilding the academy- we’ve signed a lot of players for the u18 squad. One
of them, Kun Temenukhov, is a Bulgarian striker who was at Barcelona ‘s academy
and is highly rated.
In this instance I think we need to be more patient
S
Sent from my iPhone
> On 2 Dec 2017, at 14:10, Michael Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> We are marginally better off. Certainly not substantially better off to
> ensure any meaningful change. We are still pulling the same tricks—the owner
> has to break even plus better PR.
> If we want to break even then we do noeed an owner. Supporters Power is good
> enough and at least it is community based and transparent. Owners are buying
> glory. It costs money.
> We are neither ought nor summat.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Richard Naef [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 02 December 2017 15:34
> To: Michael Benjamin <[email protected]>; Leeds List <[email protected]>;
> [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [LU] FT Leeds1 Villa1
>
> I'm not sure you understand how the transfer market works, buying decent
> players takes time,not just money. Wood went so late it was just not possible
> to find a proper replacement as no-one would sell a top class striker, who
> wanted to come to a crisis club, at that stage,so we were left with a cast
> off in lassogga. We were unlucky with ekuban's injury, so he's months behind
> where he would have been. By all means wallow in your disillusionment if that
> makes you happy, But an objective analysis would surely conclude we are in a
> better situation than for years.
>
> Sent from my Mobile
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [LU] FT Leeds1 Villa1
> From: Michael Benjamin
> To: Leeds List ,[email protected]
> CC:
> Not true wrt both.
> Both were on a contract. Look at Wenger. He learned and its about time we do.
> The player you sell us worth the price they pay. The player they sell and we
> buy often is not. It's plain daft to say with 15,million we replace Wood..
> IMO only half if not less of any buy are worth the money.
> We are back to the Cellino way of saying a player has a price. He does not..
> Not in monetary terms. It only has value in our owners pocket.
> AR is going the same way. Buy cheep sell dear. And bluff you will reinvest
> and spin the line the player didn't want to stay. Look at Leicester,
> Liverpool and Arsenal. They said no and the sky didn't cave in.
> The bottom line we are trying to do it on the cheep and make a fast buck. It
> hasn't worked and it won't.
> I am becoming disillusioned again.
> We're going nowhere again.
>
> Dr. Michael Benjamin
> Community Psychiatrist
> Oranit
>
> ________________________________
> From: Leedslist
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf
> of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 12:54:01 PM
> To: Leeds List
> Subject: Re: [LU] FT Leeds1 Villa1
>
> We offered Wood everything we possibly could except the one thing he wanted -
> Premiership football! SO not the fault of the owner in any wayIt does look
> like a mistake letting Green go but again it was his choice - had he stayed
> he would have got his chance but he was not willing to stay and fight for his
> place
> Dave
>
> From: Michael Benjamin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>;
> Simon McNally <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; {broken-address}
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Saturday, 2 December 2017, 9:57
> Subject: Re: [LU] FT Leeds1 Villa1
>
> Not to mention an England International goalkeeper and Wood. If we would have
> been more Wenger and less Leeds United we would be first. But as usual money
> in the owners bank
>
> Dr. Michael Benjamin
> Community Psychiatrist
> Oranit
>
> ________________________________
> From: Leedslist
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf
> of Simon McNally <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 11:02:05 AM
> To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; {broken-address}
> Subject: Re: [LU] FT Leeds1 Villa1
>
> I thought we played well, especially first half. Pablo going off was the
> turning point for me - Roofe is absolutely gash. I couldn’t understand why he
> took that free kick right on the edge of the area, which he then failed to
> beat the first man with. Surely Saiz would’ve been a better choice?
> I think Ayling needs a spell out of the team. He’s getting caught out
> positionally all the time and I don’t know why he keeps cutting inside with
> the ball. I’d play Berardi at right back but then we’re back to the issue of
> no left back. I think the recruitment has been good but it was a massive
> mistake to not sign a left back, especially when we knew that Taylor was
> going.
>
> S
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 02:17, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Worst game of the season for Saiz. If he just kept it simple sometimes.
>> Ayling needs to too
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 1, 2017, at 5:04 PM, {broken-address}
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Very entertaining first 45, but an average (at best) second. One problem is
>>> simply the number of times Ayling either loses the ball in terrible
>>> positions, or gets out of position by over-shooting his runs. I thought he
>>> looked out of his depth at times. Quite why we were hitting long balls to
>>> Roofe near the end is beyond me - he’s not Alf Tupper! A good point
>>> probably, with some good performances from Ekuban and Vierra, but we don’t
>>> look like we’ll be contenders - too lightweight up front.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On 1 Dec 2017, at 21:45, Michael Benjamin
>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No way we do anything this season.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Leedslist [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John
>>>> Boocock
>>>> Sent: 01 December 2017 23:44
>>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: [LU] FT Leeds1 Villa1
>>>>
>>>> Subject says it all
>>>>
>>>> Sent from the Northern Pennines!
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