There’s truth in what all say.
As a club, we are better set up at all levels than we have been since Silver.
AR put up and bought Elland Road. That is massive and should not be
under-estimated. There is a lot that will flow from that still, on training
ground etc.
All that good stuff said, we handled the Wood sale poorly (left it too late and
failed to have a quality replacement lined up) and the Green sale was just poor
judgement by the footballing side of the club - anyone with an ounce of
footballing experience can see the Germán lad is half the keeper that Green is.
But mistakes are made, such is life, and the trick is not to repeated them.
So AR is a good thing. But he is has never owned a football club before and he
will make mistakes. But stick with him.
> On 2. Dec 2017, at 22:43, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I am someone who watches from thousands of miles away Dave and I am totally
> of the same opinion as you. To compare the current ownership to electric
> fence Bates, GFH and Cellino is absurd.
> Nick
> On Saturday, December 2, 2017, 9:46:31 AM EST, [email protected]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I have just read the interview with our 'managing director ' Angus kinnear in
> the Square Ball - it is interesting stuff.Reading that and recalling the
> interview with Orta a few months back, anyone who does not think things are
> heading in the right direction and who does not think things have improved
> massively since Bates/GFH/Cellino is really not paying attention.
> It really does appear that we are setting down the foundations towards
> getting to be a decent Premiership club. We are building for the future and
> doing things properly.
> Yes, they all talk a good game but as others have said things like buying
> back the stadium, LUTV showing games for overseas fans, good ticket offers,
> talking and listening to fans groups etc show that, to date, they are backing
> up their talk with action
> Of course, ultimately, all that counts is what happens on the pitch and even
> despite our recent slump , things are better than they have been.We bought
> well in the summer, some of the recruits have not (yet) worked out but it
> takes time to adjust to a new country and a new club and a new league.
> Hopefully Felix has learnt a few hard lessons. Ekuban is now back from injury
> and Alioski is finding his feet - 4 goals in 5 games.
> From what I have heard and read - Green spat his dummy out and was causing
> trouble when he was no longer first choiceWood - we offered him a big rise in
> wages and said if we did not get promoted we would sell him for half his real
> value so I don't know what else we could do. We are a Championship club and
> players want to play in the Premiership, so to try and compare us to Wenger
> at Arsenal is just silly (not quite sure what the Wenger stuff alludes to in
> any event)
> I get it that fans want us to get promoted and that for overseas fans it is
> hard to accept where we are, but as someone who goes to all the home games
> and speaks to fans who go home and away etc, and therefore, I believe have
> 'my finger on the pulse' a bit more than someone thousands of miles away, I
> am happy with the way things are going and have a great deal of confidence in
> our future
> dave
>
>
> From: Simon McNally <[email protected]>
> To: Michael Benjamin <[email protected]>
> Cc: Richard Naef <[email protected]>; Leeds List
> <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, 2 December 2017, 14:17
> Subject: Re: [LU] FT Leeds1 Villa1
>
> I think that’s a harsh judgment on AR.
> He’s bought the ground back and recruited some decent players. We also seem
> to be rebuilding the academy- we’ve signed a lot of players for the u18
> squad. One of them, Kun Temenukhov, is a Bulgarian striker who was at
> Barcelona ‘s academy and is highly rated.
> In this instance I think we need to be more patient
>
> S
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 14:10, Michael Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> We are marginally better off. Certainly not substantially better off to
>> ensure any meaningful change. We are still pulling the same tricks—the owner
>> has to break even plus better PR.
>> If we want to break even then we do noeed an owner. Supporters Power is good
>> enough and at least it is community based and transparent. Owners are buying
>> glory. It costs money.
>> We are neither ought nor summat.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Richard Naef [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: 02 December 2017 15:34
>> To: Michael Benjamin <[email protected]>; Leeds List <[email protected]>;
>> [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [LU] FT Leeds1 Villa1
>>
>> I'm not sure you understand how the transfer market works, buying decent
>> players takes time,not just money. Wood went so late it was just not
>> possible to find a proper replacement as no-one would sell a top class
>> striker, who wanted to come to a crisis club, at that stage,so we were left
>> with a cast off in lassogga. We were unlucky with ekuban's injury, so he's
>> months behind where he would have been. By all means wallow in your
>> disillusionment if that makes you happy, But an objective analysis would
>> surely conclude we are in a better situation than for years.
>>
>> Sent from my Mobile
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [LU] FT Leeds1 Villa1
>> From: Michael Benjamin
>> To: Leeds List ,[email protected]
>> CC:
>> Not true wrt both.
>> Both were on a contract. Look at Wenger. He learned and its about time we
>> do. The player you sell us worth the price they pay. The player they sell
>> and we buy often is not. It's plain daft to say with 15,million we replace
>> Wood.. IMO only half if not less of any buy are worth the money.
>> We are back to the Cellino way of saying a player has a price. He does not..
>> Not in monetary terms. It only has value in our owners pocket.
>> AR is going the same way. Buy cheep sell dear. And bluff you will reinvest
>> and spin the line the player didn't want to stay. Look at Leicester,
>> Liverpool and Arsenal. They said no and the sky didn't cave in.
>> The bottom line we are trying to do it on the cheep and make a fast buck. It
>> hasn't worked and it won't.
>> I am becoming disillusioned again.
>> We're going nowhere again.
>>
>> Dr. Michael Benjamin
>> Community Psychiatrist
>> Oranit
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Leedslist
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on
>> behalf of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 12:54:01 PM
>> To: Leeds List
>> Subject: Re: [LU] FT Leeds1 Villa1
>>
>> We offered Wood everything we possibly could except the one thing he wanted
>> - Premiership football! SO not the fault of the owner in any wayIt does look
>> like a mistake letting Green go but again it was his choice - had he stayed
>> he would have got his chance but he was not willing to stay and fight for
>> his place
>> Dave
>>
>> From: Michael Benjamin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>;
>> Simon McNally <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; {broken-address}
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Sent: Saturday, 2 December 2017, 9:57
>> Subject: Re: [LU] FT Leeds1 Villa1
>>
>> Not to mention an England International goalkeeper and Wood. If we would
>> have been more Wenger and less Leeds United we would be first. But as usual
>> money in the owners bank
>>
>> Dr. Michael Benjamin
>> Community Psychiatrist
>> Oranit
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Leedslist
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on
>> behalf of Simon McNally <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 11:02:05 AM
>> To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
>> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; {broken-address}
>> Subject: Re: [LU] FT Leeds1 Villa1
>>
>> I thought we played well, especially first half. Pablo going off was the
>> turning point for me - Roofe is absolutely gash. I couldn’t understand why
>> he took that free kick right on the edge of the area, which he then failed
>> to beat the first man with. Surely Saiz would’ve been a better choice?
>> I think Ayling needs a spell out of the team. He’s getting caught out
>> positionally all the time and I don’t know why he keeps cutting inside with
>> the ball. I’d play Berardi at right back but then we’re back to the issue of
>> no left back. I think the recruitment has been good but it was a massive
>> mistake to not sign a left back, especially when we knew that Taylor was
>> going.
>>
>> S
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 02:17, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Worst game of the season for Saiz. If he just kept it simple sometimes.
>>> Ayling needs to too
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Dec 1, 2017, at 5:04 PM, {broken-address}
>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Very entertaining first 45, but an average (at best) second. One problem
>>>> is simply the number of times Ayling either loses the ball in terrible
>>>> positions, or gets out of position by over-shooting his runs. I thought he
>>>> looked out of his depth at times. Quite why we were hitting long balls to
>>>> Roofe near the end is beyond me - he’s not Alf Tupper! A good point
>>>> probably, with some good performances from Ekuban and Vierra, but we don’t
>>>> look like we’ll be contenders - too lightweight up front.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On 1 Dec 2017, at 21:45, Michael Benjamin
>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> No way we do anything this season.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Leedslist [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John
>>>>> Boocock
>>>>> Sent: 01 December 2017 23:44
>>>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: [LU] FT Leeds1 Villa1
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject says it all
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from the Northern Pennines!
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