The question that should be asked is if he stays what does he have to offer 
that will change what is happening? I don’t see him affecting things positively 
full stop! 

Get rid asap, not because he’s American , or because his cliched jargonise is 
very annoying, but because he cannot organise a football team and stop them 
losing!

There is so much of the season left to give a new manager time to reverse the 
slide, but if they piss about until Xmas it may be too late?



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> On 23 Oct 2022, at 20:35, Michael Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> The guy is so out of his depth that it is incredible. 
> What more has to happen?
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leedslist <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Nicholas Armit 
> via Leedslist
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:58 PM
> To: [email protected]; Alec McQueen <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games
> 
> Madness. He hasn't a clue what he is doing. Terrible tactics, Team so easy to 
> bypass. Looks lost on the sidelines. We have had a relatively easy time of it 
> fixtures wise this season and are in the relegation zone. Has to go.
> Nick
>    On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 06:49:30 PM EDT, Alec McQueen 
> <[email protected]> wrote:  
> 
> Sean
> That’s where I am right now… it’s clear JM has made mistakes, he is not 
> blameless for our current position, but he also did ok in the first few games 
> of the season (and at the end of last season!). 
> 
> We should not have short memories because we are on a poor run. We need to 
> give JM at least until the January window… if we haven’t won another game by 
> then, then I might also be in the JM out camp. But until then we need to be 
> patient. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 23 Oct 2022, at 01:30, [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Dave,
>> 
>> It's absolutely NOT Marsch's fault "that we have no left back worthy 
>> of a first team place and are still relying on an unfit Bamford or a 
>> failed Rodrigo up top." Just a reminder to all the Marsch-haters (and 
>> closet anti-Americans): Our useless left-back Junior Firpo, our 
>> failure of a record-breaking signing Rodrigo and our injury-prone 
>> penalty-missing centre-forward Bamford were ALL signings approved by, 
>> and signed during the reign of, Marcelo Bielsa. Just about every Leeds 
>> United supporter and Leeds United beat reporter (Phil Hay, Graham 
>> Smyth, James Marshment, etc.) was saying all summer transfer window 
>> that we needed a reliable goalscoring striker and a left-back. The 
>> club has even acknowledged trying to sign CDK and Gapko (before the 
>> desperation purchase of Gnonto on the last day of the window). There's 
>> no evidence that (unlike some recent managers) Marsch was insisting on 
>> having a tiny squad, let along telling the board not to buy a 
>> centre-forward and a left-back. (Bear in mind also that of the four 
>> players who can play in that position, three - Dallas, Struijk and 
>> Hjelde - are injured/recovering from an appendectomy. On current form 
>> I would put Firpo behind all three on the "depth chart" in that 
>> position.)
>> 
>> It's reasonable to cast a harsh light on Marsch for his team selection 
>> versus Leicester, the tactics and the lack of a Plan B (hmmm, where have we 
>> heard that before?), but it's completely unfair to blame him for big money 
>> purchases that the club failed to make in the window.
>> 
>> I continue to believe that if just a couple of the turning points in recent 
>> matches (e.g. the ref's failure to send off Saliba for his pull-back on 
>> Bamford; the missed penalty versus Arsenal, etc.) had gone our way, we'd be 
>> having a totally different conversation. But I also realize that it's got to 
>> go our way soon or not at all (for Jesse). 
>> 
>> On the plus side, how long before Mateo Joseph and Sonny Perkins are ready 
>> to step up a level? Joseph just scored his third hat-trick in eight league 
>> games for our top-of-the-table unbeaten Under-21s.
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> Sean
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nattan--- via Leedslist <[email protected]>
>> To: Robert Heath <[email protected]>; Alec McQueen 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Leeds List 2010 <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sat, Oct 22, 2022 5:51 am
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games
>> 
>> I get what you are saying and you do have a point. It is not JMs fault 
>> that v Arsenal  Rodrigo gave away a goal and that Bamford missed a penalty.  
>> Equally individual errors ( Roca this week, Cooper v Palace,  Llorente 
>> nightmare v Brentford) have cost us other games/ points and that is down to 
>> the players BUT some errors are down to the system, we are so easy to play 
>> against- fire a ball over midfield into the corner and you create chances , 
>> - that is the manager's fault.  Equally the fact that we have no left back 
>> worthy of a first team place and are still relying on an unfit Bamford or a 
>> failed Rodrigo up top is his fault Even when it works well our lack of a 
>> cutting edge means we get nothing when we are on top in a match and our soft 
>> underbelly means our opponents always have a chance.
>> We have had on paper a reasonably easy run of fixtures- only Arsenal 
>> and Chelsea of top 5 clubs and played all the bottom clubs.  Things are 
>> looking dodgy Do I want him sacked ? No , I want him to put a run of good 
>> results together and get us up the table and build on it , but I really cant 
>> see that happening.
>> I will be cheering him and the team on on Sunday but I expect the first of 
>> the Marsch out chants if we go behind ( oddly last match we were discussing 
>> who was the last manager who got the " out" chants. Never happened to 
>> Bielsa,  Heckingbottom sacked before we had chance,  ditto Christensen,  
>> Monk we wanted to stay,  Evans was unpopular but crowd never turned, Rosler, 
>> milanic , hockaday all too short lived, Redders popular, same generally with 
>> McDermott,  so did we chant Warnock out ? If not it would be Grayson,  dont 
>> recall chants,  so McAllister is the last one I can remember for sure 
>> getting the " out " chant ? Personally the last (?only) one I chanted about 
>> was Adamson, to the extent that if anyone says Adamson I say at ,east in my 
>> head "out" 
>> 
>> Tricky times at ER
>> 
>> 
>> Dave    On Friday, 21 October 2022, 21:00:09 BST, Alec McQueen 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I think we are being harsh on Marsch. He is trying to mould a new team, a 
>> new squad, a new playing style… I think it is clear to see that he is not 
>> yet happy with what is happening on the pitch… we need to give this guy a 
>> chance. The team has shown glimpses of what it is capable of, our problem 
>> seems to be consistency and Plan Bs if Plan A isn’t working. 
>> wha
>> I am not saying I think JM will come good and all will be well, I also have 
>> my serious doubts, but I think 10 games into the season is too early to be 
>> throwing out the coach and starting again. And it is not all JM’s fault… we 
>> clearly needed a proven striker and a left back and we didn’t get them. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 21 Oct 2022, at 22:33, Robert Heath <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, but to be fair to marsch (which I am not that inclined to be,
>>> but..........) several of those "Ls" under Bielsa were 0-6, 0-7, 0-4 etc.
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 10:44 AM John Lee via Leedslist < 
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Bielsa’s last 7 games in charge = WLDLLLL (4 points)
>>>> 
>>>> Marsch’s last 7 games in charge = LDLDLLL (2 points)
>>>> 
>>>> Just copied from another site!
>>>> 
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