Agree totally John. Get rid now.

Ted H

On Sun, 23 Oct 2022, 22:37 John Lee via Leedslist, <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
wrote:

> The question that should be asked is if he stays what does he have to
> offer that will change what is happening? I don’t see him affecting things
> positively full stop!
>
> Get rid asap, not because he’s American , or because his cliched jargonise
> is very annoying, but because he cannot organise a football team and stop
> them losing!
>
> There is so much of the season left to give a new manager time to reverse
> the slide, but if they piss about until Xmas it may be too late?
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 23 Oct 2022, at 20:35, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
> >
> > The guy is so out of his depth that it is incredible.
> > What more has to happen?
> >
> >
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> On Behalf Of Nicholas
> Armit via Leedslist
> > Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:58 PM
> > To: seanscr...@aol.com; Alec McQueen <alec...@gmail.com>
> > Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games
> >
> > Madness. He hasn't a clue what he is doing. Terrible tactics, Team so
> easy to bypass. Looks lost on the sidelines. We have had a relatively easy
> time of it fixtures wise this season and are in the relegation zone. Has to
> go.
> > Nick
> >    On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 06:49:30 PM EDT, Alec McQueen <
> alec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sean
> > That’s where I am right now… it’s clear JM has made mistakes, he is not
> blameless for our current position, but he also did ok in the first few
> games of the season (and at the end of last season!).
> >
> > We should not have short memories because we are on a poor run. We need
> to give JM at least until the January window… if we haven’t won another
> game by then, then I might also be in the JM out camp. But until then we
> need to be patient.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On 23 Oct 2022, at 01:30, seanscr...@aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >> Dave,
> >>
> >> It's absolutely NOT Marsch's fault "that we have no left back worthy
> >> of a first team place and are still relying on an unfit Bamford or a
> >> failed Rodrigo up top." Just a reminder to all the Marsch-haters (and
> >> closet anti-Americans): Our useless left-back Junior Firpo, our
> >> failure of a record-breaking signing Rodrigo and our injury-prone
> >> penalty-missing centre-forward Bamford were ALL signings approved by,
> >> and signed during the reign of, Marcelo Bielsa. Just about every Leeds
> >> United supporter and Leeds United beat reporter (Phil Hay, Graham
> >> Smyth, James Marshment, etc.) was saying all summer transfer window
> >> that we needed a reliable goalscoring striker and a left-back. The
> >> club has even acknowledged trying to sign CDK and Gapko (before the
> >> desperation purchase of Gnonto on the last day of the window). There's
> >> no evidence that (unlike some recent managers) Marsch was insisting on
> >> having a tiny squad, let along telling the board not to buy a
> >> centre-forward and a left-back. (Bear in mind also that of the four
> >> players who can play in that position, three - Dallas, Struijk and
> >> Hjelde - are injured/recovering from an appendectomy. On current form
> >> I would put Firpo behind all three on the "depth chart" in that
> >> position.)
> >>
> >> It's reasonable to cast a harsh light on Marsch for his team selection
> versus Leicester, the tactics and the lack of a Plan B (hmmm, where have we
> heard that before?), but it's completely unfair to blame him for big money
> purchases that the club failed to make in the window.
> >>
> >> I continue to believe that if just a couple of the turning points in
> recent matches (e.g. the ref's failure to send off Saliba for his pull-back
> on Bamford; the missed penalty versus Arsenal, etc.) had gone our way, we'd
> be having a totally different conversation. But I also realize that it's
> got to go our way soon or not at all (for Jesse).
> >>
> >> On the plus side, how long before Mateo Joseph and Sonny Perkins are
> ready to step up a level? Joseph just scored his third hat-trick in eight
> league games for our top-of-the-table unbeaten Under-21s.
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >>
> >> Sean
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nattan--- via Leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> >> To: Robert Heath <heathpalai...@gmail.com>; Alec McQueen
> >> <alec...@gmail.com>
> >> Cc: Leeds List 2010 <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> >> Sent: Sat, Oct 22, 2022 5:51 am
> >> Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games
> >>
> >> I get what you are saying and you do have a point. It is not JMs fault
> >> that v Arsenal  Rodrigo gave away a goal and that Bamford missed a
> penalty.  Equally individual errors ( Roca this week, Cooper v Palace,
> Llorente nightmare v Brentford) have cost us other games/ points and that
> is down to the players BUT some errors are down to the system, we are so
> easy to play against- fire a ball over midfield into the corner and you
> create chances , - that is the manager's fault.  Equally the fact that we
> have no left back worthy of a first team place and are still relying on an
> unfit Bamford or a failed Rodrigo up top is his fault Even when it works
> well our lack of a cutting edge means we get nothing when we are on top in
> a match and our soft underbelly means our opponents always have a chance.
> >> We have had on paper a reasonably easy run of fixtures- only Arsenal
> >> and Chelsea of top 5 clubs and played all the bottom clubs.  Things are
> looking dodgy Do I want him sacked ? No , I want him to put a run of good
> results together and get us up the table and build on it , but I really
> cant see that happening.
> >> I will be cheering him and the team on on Sunday but I expect the first
> of the Marsch out chants if we go behind ( oddly last match we were
> discussing who was the last manager who got the " out" chants. Never
> happened to Bielsa,  Heckingbottom sacked before we had chance,  ditto
> Christensen,  Monk we wanted to stay,  Evans was unpopular but crowd never
> turned, Rosler, milanic , hockaday all too short lived, Redders popular,
> same generally with McDermott,  so did we chant Warnock out ? If not it
> would be Grayson,  dont recall chants,  so McAllister is the last one I can
> remember for sure getting the " out " chant ? Personally the last (?only)
> one I chanted about was Adamson, to the extent that if anyone says Adamson
> I say at ,east in my head "out"
> >>
> >> Tricky times at ER
> >>
> >>
> >> Dave    On Friday, 21 October 2022, 21:00:09 BST, Alec McQueen
> >> <alec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think we are being harsh on Marsch. He is trying to mould a new team,
> a new squad, a new playing style… I think it is clear to see that he is not
> yet happy with what is happening on the pitch… we need to give this guy a
> chance. The team has shown glimpses of what it is capable of, our problem
> seems to be consistency and Plan Bs if Plan A isn’t working.
> >> wha
> >> I am not saying I think JM will come good and all will be well, I also
> have my serious doubts, but I think 10 games into the season is too early
> to be throwing out the coach and starting again. And it is not all JM’s
> fault… we clearly needed a proven striker and a left back and we didn’t get
> them.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>> On 21 Oct 2022, at 22:33, Robert Heath <heathpalai...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, but to be fair to marsch (which I am not that inclined to be,
> >>> but..........) several of those "Ls" under Bielsa were 0-6, 0-7, 0-4
> etc.
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 10:44 AM John Lee via Leedslist <
> >>>> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Bielsa’s last 7 games in charge = WLDLLLL (4 points)
> >>>>
> >>>> Marsch’s last 7 games in charge = LDLDLLL (2 points)
> >>>>
> >>>> Just copied from another site!
> >>>>
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