Hi Stan,

What version are you using? There was a bug like this a few years ago. I
don't know whether it was ever fixed in Legacy 7.5.

I'm getting: Mary had a child. Mary had one daughter: Jane.
without using any overrides - just Legacy defaults.

It might be worth doing a Check/Repair on your file and resetting the
Report settings to Legacy defaults, then choose your options again and
see if the problem is still there.

I assume you have checked that Mary is entered as a female.

However, there may be a wrong gender bug as I found one in a different
scenario and am still investigating to find the criteria that produces it.

Cathy

Stan wrote:
>
> Almost works like a charm Catby I had been hunting for the abitity to
> get rid of "unknown" for the father looking in the report options. I
> hadnt realised it was in the options /customise/3.11
> The only outstanding issue following the adoption of your suggestion
> is in the wording regarding the child. No matter what I put as the
> alternative wording in the marriage report it appends "He had a
> daughter" instead of "They had a daughter as it does with a standard
> marriage or relationship. It should say either "Mary" had a daughter
> or "She" had a daughter but most definitely not "He" I cannot find an
> option to overide thisi ncorrect sentence as I can in an event or
> Marriage description
> Is this the first bug I have discovered in Legacy? Is there a solution
> to this? Or is it something as obvious as the solution already
> provided by Cathy?
> Thanks again for the great help proving the advantages of this group
> best regards Stan
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Stan" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: 1/10/2015 5:09:13 p.m.
> Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative Wording Option
>>
>> Many thanks Cathy I will try it
>> best regards Stan
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Cathy Pinner" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> To: [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Sent: 1/10/2015 5:04:03 p.m.
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative Wording Option
>>>
>>> Stan,
>>>
>>> The solution is relatively easy. Don't ignore the Marriage
>>> Information screen. When someone has a child, obviously there was
>>> some form of relationship even if fleeting and it's in the
>>> "Marriage" Information where you control how the situation is reported.
>>>
>>> Open the Marriage Information screen for Mary. On the left you will
>>> find a checkbox "This couple didn't marry" - check that. That is
>>> what invokes the non-marriage wordings.
>>> Then go to the Wording Options tab and put in your alternate wording
>>> you want if the default isn't what you want. Defaults are set at
>>> Options - Customise 8.7 The Wording Options tab overrides the defaults.
>>>
>>> It can read "Mary had a child."
>>>
>>> If you don't want "Unknown" showing on your Family View for the
>>> blank father, make sure you have Options - Customise - 3.11 checked
>>> for "just leave blank". This changes it for eve ryone in your file
>>> so if you still have Unknown showing, it's because you've actually
>>> entered that yourself (and the person has a RIN which the blank
>>> record doesn't have).
>>>
>>> Cathy
>>>
>>> Stan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Carolyn, This is the first instance though where putting
>>>> alternative words in the descendant narrative report options has not
>>>> so far produced an acceptable result. There are other Legacy reports
>>>> that simply state "xxx had a child" by default, which is what I would
>>>> like to do. I can easily change the wording in the "marriage" to call
>>>> it a relationship or other on a case by case basis and do this. My aim
>>>> is to remove any reference to an unknown father and a "marriage",
>>>> My Descendant narrative report runs to well over 700 A4 pages. I have
>>>> macros in Word that do a bit of customisation on a global basis and
>>>> then create a new PDF, which is how I distribute it
>>>> I dont want to have to remember to do other changes to individual
>>>> entries every time I update a listing though. (very frequently)
>>>> cheers Stan
>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>> From: "CE WOOD" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> Sent: 1/10/2015 4:32:26 p.m.
>>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative Wording Option
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a father; he is unknown. So far, there is no problem. Your
>>>>> problem seems to be with the wording that calls it a marriage. That
>>>>> is solved in other ways that other posters can elucidate better
>>>>> than I.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the report will not produce the precise wording that is
>>>>> acceptable, you need to produce the report in another program, such
>>>>> as Word. There are options that enable this. Explore them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Legacy is not a report program; it is a database program that has
>>>>> some basic, limited report capabilit ies and accommodates producing
>>>>> reports in a few other formats in which you can use the verbiage that
>>>>> you desire.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers, Carolyn
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative Wording Option
>>>>> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 03:20:09 +0000
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a problem that I am sure others have already solved
>>>>> The scenario
>>>>> "Mary" at a time of youthful exuberance found herself pregnant at the
>>>>> age of 16 over 60 years ago. The baby was born and was adopted out to
>>>>> unknown (at the time ) parents who called her "Jane". The fathers
>>>>> name was not divulged and did not appear on the birth certificate.
>>>>> Jane did not have a happy childhood with her adoptive parents, When
>>>>> she was around 30 she managed to learn of Mary's ide ntity and made
>>>>> contact
>>>>> Mary did not marry or have any further children, but is now, in her
>>>>> 70s in close contact with Jane, Jane's husband as well as with Jane's
>>>>> children and grandchildren. ( her great grandchildren } and all want
>>>>> them included as her descendants in a descendant narrative report. In
>>>>> the same vein Jane does not want her adoptive parents identified or
>>>>> any reference made to them They are both happy with a General Note
>>>>> appearing on Jane saying she was legally adopted at birth but now is
>>>>> in close contact with her birth mother Mary
>>>>> The problem.
>>>>> Mary and Jane both want no reference to the birth father, They do not
>>>>> want him recorded as unknown, They do not want any "marriage" event
>>>>> recorded as a relationship or anything else They just the words "Mary
>>>>> had a daughter Jane" then continuation with the narrative the same as
>>>>> usual. Is that too much to ask?
>>>>> I have tried many things but nothing has wo rked. Removing the
>>>>> marriage link then just attributing the child to Mary, reinstuted a
>>>>> "marriage" and unknown father. I had thought that by making the
>>>>> "Unknown" father "private" as opposed to " invisible" he and the
>>>>> marriage would be ignored but regrettably that also suppresses Jane
>>>>> and her descendants
>>>>> Has anyone already solved this problem??
>>>>> cheers from Stan in NZ
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>





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