Hi Cathy thanks for your taking time to help . I am using version 8.0.0.5.17 I have done several check/repair then list cleanup then Compact while I have had the problem. It is still there
Yes I had double checked that Mary is shown as a female (as well as knowing she appears on the female side of the screen (right) and n ot the unknown (on the left). I actually tried marking her as male to see what that would do but the software would not accept that (correctly) until I deleted the marriage link As a workaround I have put an asterisk only in the overide wording for the "marriage" text. The Output then reads "* He had one daughter Jane" As I advised earlier I use a macro in word for global changes and I have added a replace that looks for this unique character string so it cant be overlooked As an aside i am surprised that your wording is Mary had one daughter and not She had one daughter. My output for a normal marriage / relationship entry is They had one daughter ot They had three children. It isnt X and Y had one daughter, I would be keen to know where the option is to change in that way. Very strange that you cant duplicate this but I REALLY appreciate ypur time trying best regards Stan Baker ------ Original Message ------ From: "Cathy Pinner" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: 2/10/2015 10:40:03 p.m. Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative Wording Option >Hi Stan, > >What version are you using? There was a bug like this a few years ago. >I don't know whether it was ever fixed in Legacy 7.5. > >I'm getting: Mary had a child. Mary had one daughter: Jane. >without using any overrides - just Legacy defaults. > >It might be worth doing a Check/Repair on your file and resetting the >Report settings to Legacy defaults, then choose your options again and >see if the problem is still there. > >I assume you have checked that Mary is entered as a female. > >However, there may be a wrong gender bug as I found one in a different >scenario and am still investigating to find the criteria that produces >it. > >Cathy > >Stan wrote: >> >>Almost works like a charm Catby I had been hunting for the abitity to >>get rid of "unknown" for the father looking in the report options. I >>had nt realised it was in the options /customise/3.11 >>The only outstanding issue following the adoption of your suggestion >>is in the wording regarding the child. No matter what I put as the >>alternative wording in the marriage report it appends "He had a >>daughter" instead of "They had a daughter as it does with a standard >>marriage or relationship. It should say either "Mary" had a daughter >>or "She" had a daughter but most definitely not "He" I cannot find an >>option to overide thisi ncorrect sentence as I can in an event or >>Marriage description >>Is this the first bug I have discovered in Legacy? Is there a solution >>to this? Or is it something as obvious as the solution already >>provided by Cathy? >>Thanks again for the great help proving the advantages of this group >>best regards Stan >>------ Original Message ------ >>From: "Stan" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>To: [email protected] >><mailto:[email protected]> >>Sent: 1/10/2015 5:09:13 p.m. >>Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative Wording Option >>> >>>Many thanks Cathy I will try it >>>best regards Stan >>>------ Original Message ------ >>>From: "Cathy Pinner" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>To: [email protected] >>><mailto:[email protected]> >>>Sent: 1/10/2015 5:04:03 p.m. >>>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative Wording Option >>>> >>>>Stan, >>>> >>>>The solution is relatively easy. Don't ignore the Marriage >>>>Information screen. When someone has a child, obviously there was >>>>some form of relationship even if fleeting and it's in the >>>>"Marriage" Information where you control how the situation is >>>>reported. >>>> >>>>Open the Marriage Information screen for Mary. On the left you will >>>>find a checkbox "This couple didn't mar ry" - check that. That is >>>>what invokes the non-marriage wordings. >>>>Then go to the Wording Options tab and put in your alternate wording >>>>you want if the default isn't what you want. Defaults are set at >>>>Options - Customise 8.7 The Wording Options tab overrides the >>>>defaults. >>>> >>>>It can read "Mary had a child." >>>> >>>>If you don't want "Unknown" showing on your Family View for the >>>>blank father, make sure you have Options - Customise - 3.11 checked >>>>for "just leave blank". This changes it for eve ryone in your file >>>>so if you still have Unknown showing, it's because you've actually >>>>entered that yourself (and the person has a RIN which the blank >>>>record doesn't have). >>>> >>>>Cathy >>>> >>>>Stan wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Thanks Carolyn, This is the first instance though where putting >>>>>alternative words in the descendant narrative report options has >>>>>not >>>>>so far produced an acceptable result. There are other Leg acy >>>>>reports >>>>>that simply state "xxx had a child" by default, which is what I >>>>>would >>>>>like to do. I can easily change the wording in the "marriage" to >>>>>call >>>>>it a relationship or other on a case by case basis and do this. My >>>>>aim >>>>>is to remove any reference to an unknown father and a "marriage", >>>>>My Descendant narrative report runs to well over 700 A4 pages. I >>>>>have >>>>>macros in Word that do a bit of customisation on a global basis and >>>>>then create a new PDF, which is how I distribute it >>>>>I dont want to have to remember to do other changes to individual >>>>>entries every time I update a listing though. (very frequently) >>>>>cheers Stan >>>>>------ Original Message ------ >>>>>From: "CE WOOD" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>><mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>><mailto:[email protected]> >>>>><mailto:[email protected] >>>>><mail to:[email protected]>> >>>>>Sent: 1/10/2015 4:32:26 p.m. >>>>>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative Wording Option >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>There is a father; he is unknown. So far, there is no problem. >>>>>>Your >>>>>>problem seems to be with the wording that calls it a marriage. >>>>>>That >>>>>>is solved in other ways that other posters can elucidate better >>>>>>than I. >>>>>> >>>>>>If the report will not produce the precise wording that is >>>>>>acceptable, you need to produce the report in another program, >>>>>>such >>>>>>as Word. There are options that enable this. Explore them. >>>>>> >>>>>>Legacy is not a report program; it is a database program that has >>>>>>some basic, limited report capabilit ies and accommodates >>>>>>producing >>>>>>reports in a few other formats in which you can use the verbiage >>>>>>that >>>>>>you desire. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Cheers, Carolyn >>>>>> >>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>From: [email protected] <mailto:shb @ihug.co.nz> >>>>>><mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>><mailto:[email protected] >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>Subject: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative Wording Option >>>>>>Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 03:20:09 +0000 >>>>>> >>>>>>I have a problem that I am sure others have already solved >>>>>>The scenario >>>>>>"Mary" at a time of youthful exuberance found herself pregnant at >>>>>>the >>>>>>age of 16 over 60 years ago. The baby was born and was adopted out >>>>>>to >>>>>>unknown (at the time ) parents who called her "Jane". The fathers >>>>>>name was not divulged and did not appear on the birth certificate. >>>>>>Jane did not have a happy childhood with her adoptive parents, >>>>>>When >>>>>>she was around 30 she managed to learn of Mary's ide ntity and >>>>>>made >>>>>>contact >>>>>>Mary did not marry or have any further children, but is now, in >>>>>>her >>>>>>70s in close contact with Jane, Jane's husband as well as with >>>>>>Jane's >>>>>>children and grandchildren. ( her great grandchildren } and all >>>>>>want >>>>>>them included as her descendants in a descendant narrative report. >>>>>>In >>>>>>the same vein Jane does not want her adoptive parents identified >>>>>>or >>>>>>any reference made to them They are both happy with a General Note >>>>>>appearing on Jane saying she was legally adopted at birth but now >>>>>>is >>>>>>in close contact with her birth mother Mary >>>>>>The problem. >>>>>>Mary and Jane both want no reference to the birth father, They do >>>>>>not >>>>>>want him recorded as unknown, They do not want any "marriage" >>>>>>event >>>>>>recorded as a relationship or anything else They just the words >>>>>>"Mary >>>>>>had a daughter Jane" then continuation with the narrative the same >>>>>>as >>>>>>usual. Is that too much to ask? >>>>>>I have tried many things but nothing has wo rked. Removing the >>>>>>marriage link then just attributing the child to Mary, reinstuted >>>>>>a >>>>>>"marriage" and unknown fat her. I had thought that by making the >>>>>>"Unknown" father "private" as opposed to " invisible" he and the >>>>>>marriage would be ignored but regrettably that also suppresses >>>>>>Jane >>>>>>and her descendants >>>>>>Has anyone already solved this problem?? >>>>>>cheers from Stan in NZ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) >and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). 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