On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Jonathan Harley <j...@spiffymap.net> wrote:
> On 03/02/11 04:21, Anthony wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Jonathan Harley<j...@spiffymap.net>  wrote:
>>> I think we may have differing interpretations of the intent of the
>>> license.
>>> Mine is that the license is supposed to allow people to use the map in a
>>> variety of ways, online and in print, so long as any new data is open and
>>> OSM is attributed; not that it was intended to prevent people from
>>> creating
>>> works in which not all elements are free.
>>
>> I'm not sure where you're getting that "interpretation" from.
>
> I'm partly guided by the idea that the ODbL is supposed to provide a better
> expression of the same intent. I've always understood that the intent of the
> ODbL was not to change the spirit of OSM licensing, just to clarify it.

Whose intent are we talking about, here?  The intent of some may have
been to use CC-BY-SA as though it were not a copyleft license (*), but
I seriously doubt that was the intention of most of us.

(*) To wit, Cloudmade seems to use it that way.

>>   The
>> license doesn't even mention "data", and attribution is not enough.
>
> OSM applies the license to data - the license attribution it requests
> specifically mentions "Map data".

Again, who wrote the license attribution request?  Not me.  In fact,
I'm not even sure what license attribution request you're talking
about.  If you mean the one in the slippy map, I consider that to be
incorrect.  The entire work must be CC-BY-SA, not just the data.

> Peter's right that 10 amateurs discussing interpretations isn't worth 1
> legal professional.

Depends who the amateurs are.  The interpretation of a single legal
professional is fairly worthless, unless you've paid that legal
professional for advice.

> Let's just wait until it goes to court, I say.

It won't go to court.

> I'll be
> interested to see who is so incensed about OSM's data being combined with
> non-SA third-party data, and how they claim they are suffering losses by the
> third-party data not being made available to them under CC-BY-SA.

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