On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Randy Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, my prejudice is to be pessimistic, but the evidence is that we're
> still here after all these millennia.

I consider this to be extremely weak evidence.  It doesn't address the
ratio of population to resources, especially biological resources,
that we are so busy destroying.

> Some of the question's would seem to be:
>   * if we had slowed growth many years ago, would we have experienced
> as many wars, famines, ...
>   * if we slow growth now (or even shrink) will we avoid wars,
> famines, ...

These are important, naturally, but the destruction of habitats and
species transcends these human-only questions.

> BTW, Edward, I appreciate your tolerance of this discussion here--we
> seem to be having a fairly nice relaxed discussion.

You're welcome.  It would be so much better for our country if
political discussions could be more relaxed, but I suppose given the
stakes (personal power) it is asking too much.

Edward

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