On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:40:40 -0500
Randy Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Some of the question's would seem to be:
>    * if we had slowed growth many years ago, would we have
> experienced as many wars, famines, ...
>    * if we slow growth now (or even shrink) will we avoid wars, 
> famines, ...

Perhaps the numbers of famines and wars wouldn't change much, but their
extent.  Unless we adjust food production and distribution systems etc.
to reflect the ongoing changes in fossil fuel availability we could see
shortages on regional or global scales.  Not that every one everywhere
will be short of food, but some areas avoid shortages by not exporting
to other areas which depend on the exports etc.  If we localize systems
more then shortfalls will be more local, and that leaves more scope for
assistance from neighboring areas.  The global nature of the present
economic mess is a good example.  No one can bail anyone else out,
because all the eggs were in one basket.

Modern agriculture depends on large inputs of fertilizers which are
made from fossil fuels, just to keep the stakes as high as possible.

Cheers -Terry

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