On Friday 14 November 2008 10:22 am, Edward K. Ream wrote:
> I wouldn't say it's hard, but you must separate evidence from self
> interest.  People tend usually to believe what is comforting or
> lucrative.

Well, my prejudice is to be pessimistic, but the evidence is that we're 
still here after all these millennia.  

Some of the question's would seem to be:
   * if we had slowed growth many years ago, would we have experienced 
as many wars, famines, ...
   * if we slow growth now (or even shrink) will we avoid wars, 
famines, ...

BTW, Edward, I appreciate your tolerance of this discussion here--we 
seem to be having a fairly nice relaxed discussion.  I'm sure if it 
gets out of hand, you'll have to put your foot down, but for now it 
seems like a nice place to discuss this.

> If you can get beyond that, you have a good chance of seeing clearly.
> You evaluate the quality of evidence, *independently* of where the
> evidence leads.  This is what science is (mostly) about.

Randy Kramer
-- 
I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I created a video 
instead.--with apologies to Cicero, et.al.

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