Subsequent discussion of this matter has focused on finding an acceptable 
way to receive a ping from new installs.

That's because sending, receiving, and tracking pings are the goals of the 
new feature.

Little or nothing has been said about how to track the latest version, or 
how to help the user install the latest version.

That's because those aren't goals of the "automatic update feature".

Therefore, I propose to scrap the "update" part and simply implement a ping 
feature instead.

Here is a DRAFT:

"""Hello, user. This is a message from the Leo developers.  We have no idea 
how many people use Leo.  Click here to send us a ping.  The exact content 
of your transmission will be "HTTP GET /leo/newinstall/linux/python3.14", 
which as you can see includes information about your OS and python version. 
and the receiver has been configured to forget your IP address but remember 
the date and time and the information you sent us.  You can send different 
information if you like by editing ping.leo, blah blah.  We really 
appreciate it!"""

This will be easier to implement.  Most of the work will be on the 
server-side.

It will also be more transparent.  That's a VERY important quality.

Will many folks abstain from participation?  Yes.  That's their choice. 
 And I think that, unfortunately for us, it TRUMPS our need to know how 
many people use Leo.

I hope that this helps.

Cheers,
--Dave

On Friday, August 9, 2013 9:13:09 AM UTC-5, dufriz wrote:
>
> Couldn't you include an automatic update feature into the program, which 
> will signal the presence of an instance of Leo being used?
>

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