I don't have to know when life begins to know rights begin at birth. 
That is because I have sole dominion over my own body and all things
within it.  Nothing within the body of a human has any rights because
a human has sole dominion over their body and all things living within
it.  If I have sole dominion, I am the GOD of my body.  I decide
whether any organism within my body, or even my body itself will die
and nobody else on earth has any say in the matter.  Questioning what
I do with the organisms inside my body is no different than
questioning the will of "god" when he creates a tsunami killing
thousands upon thousands of people.  

If I can kill anything in my body and nobody else on earth has any say
in the matter...especially the organism itself, it means it has no
rights at all.  Not even the right to life.  It doesn't matter what
kind of organism it is or what stage of development it is in.  NOTHING
inside my body or the body of any other human has rights until it is
no longer inside my body.  This of course means human rights begin at
birth and not one second before.  

This is not merely my "opinion", it is a fact.  To dispute my sole
dominion over my body and all things inside my body is to violate the
very premise of Libertarianism.  To dispute it is to claim that humans
don't have rights, which is to dispute natural law.  It's no different
than claiming gravity does not exist.  



--- In [email protected], Deus Ex Machina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I'm a computer network engineer and think as logically as a computer,
> > so I feel qualified to answer this question.
> > 
> > A computer would say that we are BORN with rights, and that all humans
> > have sole dominion over their own body and the organisms within that
> > body so it doesn't matter when human life begins because NOTHING has
> > any rights while it is inside the body of a person.  
> > 
> > Rights start at birth and not one second before.
> 
> thats your opinion, what objective fact can you back it up with? none.
> its a by definition position. you you define rights to start at
> conception then that is equally valid.
> 
> there are no "rights" to be observed in a person. it is not possible
> then to say when a person a) is a actually a person b) actually starts
> to hold rights.
> 
> Vic
> 
> > --- In [email protected], Deus Ex Machina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > < its not people are prone to
> > > > bias, its just that people _are_ subjective.>
> > > > 
> > > > yes, that is why we need an objective computer to keep order...
> > > 
> > > really? lets try an example.
> > > 
> > > person A says life doesnt start till the baby leaves the womb as its
> > > still attached to the mother.
> > > 
> > > person B says life starts at some point when the fetus start to
respond
> > > to stimulus.
> > > 
> > > person C says life starts at conception as its clearly a living
growing
> > > organism.
> > > 
> > > when does your computer say the babys rights start? why are the
> > other two wrong?
> > > 
> > > where is the objective evidence for the computers choice?
> > > 
> > > Vic
> > >
> > 
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