< If lack of absolute proof equals circular logic, then science is one big dizzy mutherfocker. I don't think such an absolute thing absolutely exists. >
You have got it right. All logic is self referential. Then there is a very convincing false logic, which is a favorite tool of politicians. And humans are the toolmakers. Anna ----- Original Message ----- From: mark robert To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:49 PM Subject: RE: objective vs subjective Re: [Libertarian] Re: Socialism/Capitalism of the Author Vic, You ask for proof, verification, objective fact, measurement and support of personhood genesis and individual rights - and claim such things do not exist. Yet you admit said "righthood" exists as agreement, belief, mental construct, matter of opinion. Do you not think any of the latter is based on any of the former? Do you not think the opinion (that personhood begins at parturition) is based on any good facts or support? Do you not think that said opinion is more likely/accurate than competing ones, or that the belief is more believable than the others? Do you not think that agreements to respect each other's rights were/are not based on good information? Considering that the typical scientific burden of proof usually lies with the one who makes the most unlikely claim, you may be questioning the wrong camp. If lack of absolute proof equals circular logic, then science is one big dizzy mutherfocker. I don't think such an absolute thing absolutely exists. -Mark _____ paul, this doesnt prove anything. you are just stuck in circular logic. Vic _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian SPONSORED LINKS E government Libertarian E government strategy Libertarian party E government procurement ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Libertarian" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
