Nope. Not even close. It wouldn't matter if Saddam and his sons were murdering 10,000 Iraqi people per day, boiling thier screaming children in oil on national television and had live torture game shows. It wouldn't matter if he took over the entire middle-east, ruled with an iron fist, and controlled every drop of oil in the middle-east. No amount of human rights violations or even genocide is justification to use the U.S. military for any reason other than responding to an attack against AMERICA. Being a "super power" does NOT mean it's our responsibility to stop human suffering, oppression, or even genocide happening elsewhere. It's not a libertarian position to steal from Americans and to send Americans to die defending people in another country. It's also not Constitutional. The libertarian position is to keep the government small and cheap and never to use the military other than in OUR OWN defense when we are attacked and not otherwise.
We are the well wishers of freedom and liberty to all, but the champions only of our own. --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, the US was justified in invading Iraq, for one, and one reason > only; the massive human rights violations of Saddam, Uday, Qusay and > their henchmen. Just as bad as Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge. As the > world's only remaining superpower it is OUR responsibility to stop > human genocide on the planet. That is inherently a very libertarian > position, and it's amazing many libertarians have chosen to put > themselves on the side of totalitarian dictators instead of on the > side of liberation. > > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" > <uncoolrabbit@> wrote: > > > > Nothing Paul said below contradicts that Iraqi's statement. None > of > > sadams chemical weapons were found, that includes any that made it > > to Syria. It is no secret that Iraq had chemical and biological > > weapons. The real crime of the administration is falsely leading > the > > people to believe IRaq was actively developing new wweapons, > > including nuclear ambitions, which was not the case. > > > > So, what does the statement have to do with calling Paul a liar? > The > > Iraqi does not know where they went, only supporting Paul in his > > claim that no WMDs were found in Iraq. It IS a fact. > > > > Aside from the specifics of Pauls statements validity, what else > are > > you trying to get at? That the administration is justified in > > invading Iraq over a past and now dead chemical and biological > > weapons program, and that traces off that prgram, including the > > undestroyed products of that program, products the US has aswell > and > > has been slowly destroying for years, are all the justification > > needed, while that same administration tolerated a real program to > > develop nuclear weapons in North Korea? This war had nothing to do > > with Iraq's arsenal, get over it. > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > > <ericdondero@> wrote: > > > > > > And so Paul, you are claiming then that you know more about what > > > actually happened to the WMDs than the 2nd in Command of the > Iraqi > > > Air Force who a few weeks ago, in an interview, stated > > categorically > > > that "we shuffled them all off to Syria two months before the > > > invasion..."? > > > > > > Are you calling the guy a liar Paul? > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't find anything ridiculous about the indisputable FACT > that > > > > there were no WMD's found. Not even non-WMDs like mustard gas > > were > > > > found. Only the components that could be used to make mustard > > gas > > > > were found. So once again, NO WMDs WERE FOUND. That's not an > > > attack > > > > on the President. IT IS A FACT and those who claim otherwise > are > > > > woefully misinformed or completely dishonest and most likely > Bush > > > > apologists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Geof Gibson" > <geofgibson@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Terry L Parker" > > <txliberty@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Geof, attack message, NOT messengers, in THIS forum! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Terry Liberty Parker > > > > > > Owner/moderator, > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry. I try my best to attack ridiculous arguments > > without > > > > > personal reference. > > > > > I will re-double my efforts to remain impersonal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
