I'm a meat and potatos advocate of libertarianism. My libertarianism comes instinctively from the gut.
Yeah, I've read Mises, Rand, Rothbard, Hayek, Friedman (my favorite), Hazlitt, Nozick, Hospers, you name it. They just serve to reinforce the beliefs that I already have. You've actually hit on something quite brillant. IMHO the biggest problem the libertarian movement has these days is that it's far too philosophical and dogmatic. We can't seem to relate to "meat and potatos libertarianism" like that of the Reform Party/Perotista crowd. As soon as we get a recruit into a more consistent libertarianism and most especially LP ranks, we hit them over the head with ises. "Hey, you gotta read this, you gotta read that..." Why can't we accept that people sympathetic to libertariansim are out there who are not deeply contemplative and there's absolutely no need to turn them on to being book worms. Accept them for who they are. --- In [email protected], "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Eric, > > > > Your greatest-threat view has no basis. Therefore all your > related posts consist of fear embellishment and enemy creation. > Of course then, there are your posts which essentially consist of > selling govt protection. Wow what a coincidence. You post that > you think drug prohibition is wrong and support drug > legalization, but you provide no details - and you minimize its > harm, forgive its agents and blame its victims. In fact, you > admit you've never thought about force and consent. Therefore, > what would be your anti-prohibition basis? Without knowledge of > force and consent, you can not comprehend the most basic > libertarian fundamentals like individual liberty, civil rights, > govt oppression, etc. > > > > What's the solution? Are you kidding? You haven't even thought > about force and consent yet (assimilated the simplest core > principles). The message in your posts conveys little-to-no > libertarianism. Answer: Look in the mirror and call your last 22 > years of devotion "wasted", and a) QUIT; b) START OVER. > > > > Your admitted ignorance kind of explains why your posts usually > sound more like "big-governmentism" than libertarianism. But they > actually sound like something more overt, intentional, and > strategic than simply ignorant; like > "paid-for-by-big-governmentism". > > > > -Mark > > > > > > > > > > ************ > {American jurors have complete Constitutional authority to vote > "not guilty" based on nothing more than a disagreement with the > case, no matter the evidence - despite the judge's instructions. > There is absolutely no obligation to vote "guilty" to arrive at a > unanimous verdict. Get on a jury, stand your ground, and fulfill > its other main purpose: to counteract abusive government and > unjust lawsuits. > See www.fija.org > [Please adopt this as your own signature.] } > > > > > _____ > > Paul, we're never going to solve this. We are going to keep > going > round and round and round and round. You and others here see the > > federal government, particularly the government headed by Bush as > the > greatest threat to American freedoms, I and others here view > Islamo- > fascism as the greatest threat to our freedoms. > > My side, at least speaking for myself, is never going to give up > the > term libertarian to your side. I will never surrender it, > especially considering that I've devoted 22 years of my life now > to > builing this libertarian movement. > > You will literally have to kill me first, to get me to surrender > the > term libertarian. > > So, what's the solution here? > > There's NO shame whatsoever, in you and others like you calling > your philosophy Anarchist. Why do you resist this? It's truth > in > labeling. Why are you so against coming out four square and > announcing to the world what you're philosophy is? > > We clearly cannot continue being in the same political movement. > > > And as witnessed by my side crushing yours at the very latest > Libertarian Party of California Convention, it's you that has to > rethink your position and future. > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
