libertarian if they believed that dictator, oligarchy or other form of
authoritarian government were the best way to achieve anything close to what
we describe as our platform.
I say Paul's analogy is flawed because "belief in Jesus of Nazareth" isn't
necessarily a requirement to be a Christian. One could be born into the
Catholic church and baptized. Unitarians accept non-believers . An atheist
showed up at almost any Christian church and said that he wants to believe
but is having trouble, they would probably welcome him with open arms. For
years he may struggle with doubts but still could call himself Christian. A
strong believer in Jesus may explore other religions. Everyone approaches a
belief or a desire to be like Christ differently and it can be a very
personal thing. If Paul wants to keep his analogy then he will have to agree
that belief in the NAP is also a highly personal thing and one's commitment
cannot be easily questioned by mere mortals unless there is some sort of
egregious violation.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Terry L Parker
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Purity
Cory, sans universal physical aggression truce, libertarianism can
describe a dictator, an oligarchy and so on, since the rulers
certainly have 'liberty'
Please see what I wrote in
LIMITED vs UNIVERSAL Libertarianism
at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/47412
-TLP
--- In [email protected], "Cory Nott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If you had read what I wrote correctly, you would have seen that I
said "all
> ideas on liberty lead toward the basic philosophy of non-
aggression."
>
> I am not wrong. Your analogy, like the one about American being
some sort of
> corporate mall, is flawed. Libertarianism isn't a religion where
everyone
> must have one core belief or be left out in the cold. Liberty is
objective,
> but there may be different ideas on how to get there and just what
liberty
> fully is. I have a moral commitment to the premise of the NAP but I
would
> not require other libertarians to have that same moral value. I'm
happy if
> they accept that is the best principle, or think it's generally a
good idea
> to an extent greater than what we have in government today.
>
> I'm also wondering why Satan worshippers aren't Christians
according to your
> definition. Most Satan worshippers believe in Jesus of Nazareth -
they just
> don't worship Him. Also, what about those people who believe Jesus
existed
> but don't believe he was God and don't call themselves Christian?
Maybe you
> need to define the core belief of Christianity further, but I still
don't
> think it'll make for a good analogy.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Paul
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:31 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Purity
>
>
> Wrong. Comparing Christianity to Libertarianism is an absolutely
> perfect analogy. Christianity has a set belief system and so does
> libertarianism. Christianity has a core belief that separates its
> belief system from others. In this case the belief in Jesus of
> Nazareth. In the case of Libertarianism it's the believe in and
> support of the non-aggression principle. If someone does not
believe
> in the nap, the term "libertarianism" is as inappropriate for
them as
> is "Christianity" for a Satan worshiping.
>
> All paths do not lead to liberty. Some lead to aggression, and
those
> that lead to aggression always lead away from liberty.
Aggression in
> the name of liberty is like rape in the name of virginity.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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