point.In John Stossel's column today he says:
"Why should government cost us more than shelter? Political scientist James
L. Payne examined the record of 14 congressional appropriations hearings and
found that of 1,060 witnesses who testified, only seven spoke against
spending money, while more than a thousand testified that the spending --
whatever it was -- was necessary. Even a politician who believes in limited
government has a tough time resisting a constant onslaught of "needy" people
saying, "This program is crucial!" "
How indeed does the Libertarian politician hold out against the constant
cries for more spending? It's not so easy when people make a good case as to
why they need money, and those people number in the hundreds and fill up
your calendar every day for years. It is here that a commitment to the NAP
becomes crucial because otherwise it will be easier just to give in. I would
not close the doors to people who want to be Libertarians but can't yet find
reason to apply the NAP to all cases. It is far easier to reach them from
within the fold.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Terry L Parker
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Purity
Cory, sans universal physical aggression truce, libertarianism can
describe a dictator, an oligarchy and so on, since the rulers
certainly have 'liberty'
Please see what I wrote in
LIMITED vs UNIVERSAL Libertarianism
at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/47412
-TLP
--- In [email protected], "Cory Nott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If you had read what I wrote correctly, you would have seen that I
said "all
> ideas on liberty lead toward the basic philosophy of non-
aggression."
>
> I am not wrong. Your analogy, like the one about American being
some sort of
> corporate mall, is flawed. Libertarianism isn't a religion where
everyone
> must have one core belief or be left out in the cold. Liberty is
objective,
> but there may be different ideas on how to get there and just what
liberty
> fully is. I have a moral commitment to the premise of the NAP but I
would
> not require other libertarians to have that same moral value. I'm
happy if
> they accept that is the best principle, or think it's generally a
good idea
> to an extent greater than what we have in government today.
>
> I'm also wondering why Satan worshippers aren't Christians
according to your
> definition. Most Satan worshippers believe in Jesus of Nazareth -
they just
> don't worship Him. Also, what about those people who believe Jesus
existed
> but don't believe he was God and don't call themselves Christian?
Maybe you
> need to define the core belief of Christianity further, but I still
don't
> think it'll make for a good analogy.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Paul
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:31 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Purity
>
>
> Wrong. Comparing Christianity to Libertarianism is an absolutely
> perfect analogy. Christianity has a set belief system and so does
> libertarianism. Christianity has a core belief that separates its
> belief system from others. In this case the belief in Jesus of
> Nazareth. In the case of Libertarianism it's the believe in and
> support of the non-aggression principle. If someone does not
believe
> in the nap, the term "libertarianism" is as inappropriate for
them as
> is "Christianity" for a Satan worshiping.
>
> All paths do not lead to liberty. Some lead to aggression, and
those
> that lead to aggression always lead away from liberty.
Aggression in
> the name of liberty is like rape in the name of virginity.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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