Paul that blacks and jews both were refered to as less than human in
not so distant times. I also, becasue I understand that point,
mentioned that I recognize there is a difference of opinions. I
would be oppossed to a libertarian platform bassed on passing
federal pro-life legislation aswell, I often stay out of abortion
discussions because its like two stubborn goats butting heads.
However, if one side stops and the other doesn't one point of view
gets unfair air time, you know.
Non citizens are human, but there not what we call in my buisness a
US Person. They don't have rights as a US Person in the US but they
are still granted human rights.
Now, we can call it a fetus, but it can not be denied that it is a
human fetus. Though it is not a 'Person' it is still human, and my
point of view is that Human rights are just that, Human rights. My
stand on that belief is not with out consideration of the point in
contention.
--- In Libertarian@
>
> A fair argument, but you're missing the point of contention.
>
> No one (at least no sane person with even a rudimentary knowledge
of
> biology) denies that the fetus is "alive."
>
> What those libertarians who hold that abortion should not be
> interfered with believe is that the fetus is not a _person_, with
> _rights_.
>
> If it isn't, then there is no "aggression" involved -- it's no
> different in principle than having a tumor or a wart removed, and
it
> would be aggression to forcibly prevent it.
>
> On the other hand, if it _is_ a person, with rights, then there
may or
> may not be aggression to deal with, at several points and involving
> any or several of the involved parties.
>
> Without rehearsing my own views on the subject in detail, the main
> thing I'd like to point out is that this is an argument over
questions
> of specific fact and implementation, not an argument over
principle.
> Both pro-life and pro-choice libertarians (of the Non-Aggression
> Principle variety) eschew and condemn the initiation of force --
what
> they disagree on is the status of the fetus (person or non-person),
> and it is on that question that subsequent questions of whether or
not
> force is being initiated hinge.
>
> > Also, I just want to say, if I haven't before, that I love
hearing
> > from you on the board Thomas.
>
> Likewise!
>
> Regards,
> Tom Knapp
>
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