me your opinion, legislation written on opinion rather than factual
logic is no diferent than the conservative right's imposition of
morale laws, or the lefts imposiiton of rob from the rich steal from
the poor and is in every way shape and form the tool of a statist.
--- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In the case of abortion, there is no aggression directed at a
child.
> There is no child to aggress against. A fetus is alive in the same
> way a tumor is alive. Both have human dna cells. Both have the
same
> amount of human life....NONE.
>
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <uncoolrabbit@>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The other day I remembered why I was drawn to Libertarianism. A
> > friend, who is republican, said that there needs to be a dress
code
> > in schools. (He is a teacher). I asked why, he said the other
day a
> > kid came in wearing a shirt that said 'buck fuddy'. I asked him
> > what that means, and he went on a tiraid of cliches rather than
> > explaining why he felt that there should be a dress code, and
asked
> > me why I 'took the kids side.' I said I haven't taken a side,
but
> > the default should always be that people have there own personal
> > freedoms.
> >
> > There is alot of room in Libertarianism for logic, a person can
do
> > anything that does not hurt anouther. I believe a real
philosophical
> > victory would come from adhering to a policy on defending
liberty
> > within the confines of not injuring others. There is alot to be
said
> > on both sides here, so we must, to achieve a 'philosophical
triumph'
> > hold to our philosophical values, as you Terry said to me, what
was
> > it, something to the effect of if you do not stand for something
you
> > stand for nothing? Back to the point, a principle that many
here, I
> > think even Paul, have claimed to support is tracing initiation
of
> > force to its source in determing who is the agressor, or where
the
> > agression is comming from.
> >
> > In the case of Abortion, were is the agression comming from, is
it
> > comming from the child? Not hardly, the child did not exhist
prior
> > to conception and had no conscious part in it. It was actions
taken
> > by the parents that are responsible for its very being. This is
an
> > important to mention, responsible, as the are responsible for
this
> > life.
> >
> > The fetus, for Paul who enjoys the term, is alive, and abortion
> > terminates that life, it kills the fetus, who is not responsible
for
> > the condition of the mother. The agression is the act of the
> > responsible party, terminating the very exhistance of the 2nd
party
> > to avoid there own responsibilities and consequences of there
> > actions. Nothing could be to me, more unlibertarian.
> >
> > I however, do understand that not every one thinks like me, and
> > believe there should not be a federal law banning abortion.
> >
> > Also, I just want to say, if I haven't before, that I love
hearing
> > from you on the board Thomas.
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Thomas L. Knapp"
> > <thomaslknapp@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Quoth Boyd:
> > >
> > > > It may be a philosophical victory
> > >
> > > It would be neither philosophical nor a victory.
> > >
> > > In order for it to be "philosophical," it would have to
incorporate
> > > reasoned argument rather than simply bluster and attempted
> > > authoritative personal ukase.
> > >
> > > In order for it to be a "victory," it would have to elicit a
> > reaction
> > > from its audience to the effect that it _is_ reasoned argument
> > rather
> > > than bluster and ukase.
> > >
> > > Tom Knapp
> > >
> >
>
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