John, I assume, given your concern, that you are still on the reservation doing your $700 a month Vista job (paid by the government with money stolen from other citizens at gunpoint, by the way).
Actually, I happen to agree with you that the government should honor its treaty obligations to native Americans - or renegotiate them. It would probably be better to renegotiate them in favor of some sort of capitalist solution. --- In [email protected], "John Stroebel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ah....so let them die. That about right Mark? > > And the reason is....ending the agreements with this reservation will do > what...cause the prosperity of this county to increase? > > Perhaps Mark you might tell me how. You seem to be an expert of sorts. Would > you be so kind as to spell out for me what we can expect to see, in some > order of progression, in way of improvements in San Juan County. > > Then perhaps you can tell me what your expertise is. Are you an economist? A > sociologist? An anthropologist. Maybe you can show me some kind of date, in > way of study, that will show how this has been tested in a real situation. > > Then, Mark, you can perhaps explain how we should handle the starvation of > 500 people, especially the children. Can you do that? > > Have you ever seen people who live on less than 2500 caleries a day Mark? > Have you ever worked with them? Have you ever worked with children with > rickets, or anemia, or no teeth? Have you ever shared your lunch with > children in situations like this? > > Have you ever walked into a home and seen dog being served...and people > happy to have meat for a change? > > See Mark, your pat and packaged ideas on how to deal with human beings who > do not have enough to eat or means to earn a living is much too....clinical > for me. It seems have shades of cynicism. But them, maybe you are an > expert...maybe you have done some studies on genocide for the good of the > economy. Have you? > > Now before you cry out about a word or two you take to heart, remember to > answer the questions. Tell me how the deaths by starvation and disease of > 500 or so Native Americans who live in the least densely populated and > poorest county in the USA will help us right now to become more prosperous. > I'll pass on your remarkable discovery to the people of San Juan County > Utah. See, they have been looking for a way out of the poverty there for a > long long time. > > Then tell me what you will do after you end this situation. Save more money > on body armour because that is like a handout too? > > > On 6/26/06, mark robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > John, > > > > If welfare causes poverty, and stopping it reduces poverty, then > > my answer will not cause more starvation or death than your > > answer. To the contrary; stopping welfare (we can call it "aid" > > if you like) increases health and prosperity. As you well know, I > > did not miss your statements; no wealth, no industry, no > > opportunity, and low education are all hallmarks of the welfare > > state. > > > > -Mark > > > > > > ************ > > {American jurors have complete Constitutional authority to vote > > "not guilty" based on nothing more than a disagreement with the > > case, no matter the evidence - despite the judge's instructions. > > There is absolutely no obligation to vote "guilty" to arrive at a > > unanimous verdict. Get on a jury, stand your ground, and fulfill > > its other main purpose: to counteract abusive government and > > unjust lawsuits. > > See www.fija.org > > [Please adopt this as your own signature.] } > > > > ----------------- > > > > Ah. So we leave good people to starve, so that capitolism can > > thrive. I see. > > > > Perhaps you missed my statement that this is THE poorest AND > > least densely > > populated county in the USA. There IS no industry no work, no > > opportunity > > and the education system has failed these people. The 9 year > > drought has > > made cattle ranching almost impossible, too. > > The only natural resource to speak of are the uranium mines that > > were closed > > in the 60's/ > > > > So tell me Mark, how do you justify leaving people to die when > > they were > > guaranteed food medical care and education? You DO know that the > > nations are > > sovereign, right? That these agreements amount to international > > treaties > > with the one stipulation that they follow Federal law and that is > > enforced > > by the BIA and FBI? > > > > So Mark, are your theories more important than international > > treaties and > > the lives of people who gave up everything through coercion? > > > > Explain to me, please, the logic of that, and how the deaths of > > these people > > fit into the chain of priorities. I am curious what is more > > important than > > keeping our treaties to people who have no opportunity or > > resources. > > > > > > > > > > -- > ***************************************** > "We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang > separately!" ...Ben Franklin > > ****************************************** > Are YOU Preparing For The November '06 Elections NOW??? > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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