>>Get on the horn. Get
>>involved. Take action. Or, whine and cry and bemoan the fact that you are
>>legally obliged to sit back and get nothing done. That treaty will stand
>>until Bush gets around to disolving it. Until then, all you can do is cry
me
>> a river, cry over spilled milk, cry sour grapes. Period.

John,

I'm  very active. I don't need to defend what it is I do in the political
arena in order to take a principled stand against the redistribution of
wealth and the anti-property rights that are the hallmark of US (federal and
local) government today. Whether it's huge defense budgets and hundreds of
billions in borrowing, or tiny little programs which are paid for by the
fruit of my labor without my permission, it's anti-liberty.

What I find interesting is that after several emails defending your favorite
program, you finally resort to the usual statist line that if I don't like
it, I should get active and get on the horn with my congress critters and
tell them to stop spending money that way. I take it that means that
anything that is approved by Congress is perfectly appropriate because we
didn't object to it enough?

Did you get involved and take action when Bush was "appointed"? Or are you
just crying us a river?

>>As for selling away all your rights, you have ALREADY lost your rights to
>>privacy, protection against illegal wiretaps, free speech and protection
>>against illegal seach and seizures. Did you make a peep??? I think not.
Bush
>>has wiped his butt with that lil' document called the Constitution, and
I'd
>> expect he will just keep on going till he is stopped.

Apparently you know what I've done. Have you made a peep, John?


I'm not worried about what the Ute receive. What I know is that the
government that can take my money to give to the Ute can take whatever it
wants from me to give to whomever it pleases. In the scheme of things, the
Ute treaty is miniscule, I agree, but the very fact that I'm paying for it
means that I am responsible for whatever else Congress decides I should pay
for. You said you'd be honest, but you delivered strawmen again. Tell me
honestly, John, if you are a libertarian, where do you draw the line on what
property and income is appropriate for the government to take from the
taxpayer.

>>Really? Hows about you tell me WHY privately owned land is a different
>>story? I think the answer would be very entertaining. land is

You don't believe in private property? There is noone alive today who
acquired land from the Ute through coercion. Tell me how that is
entertaining.




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