No Cory, I actually said just cry...or do something. I do not see a third choice, but share it with me if I missed it.
SO what do you folks do? Stamp your feet and it is all unfair? You talk about Congress taking your rights and liberties...as if you can DO anything about that! Dudes, Congress went into a derailment in the early 1800's....they DO have that power whether you like it or not! Whether it is fair or Constitutional or it isn't. WHAT are your goals? Sit around and have nice neat square discussions about how things SHOULD be???? That ain't IT, IS IT??? Do you expect to install a party in power that will overturn all these years of runaway Congress? Look, this started with my sharing the good news that a group of extremely damaged people are beginning to get back on their feet through their own efforts. You all turned it into this....'the Ute are taking my money' bullshit, not me. I pointed out that your 'one size fits all' philosophy is just pissing and moaning if you aren't DOING anything to change it. You cry foul over my points and I tell you to grow the fuck up....Congress may not have the power LEGITIMATELY, but they DO have it. So tell me folks....what you gonna do....stamp your feet and take it or do something about it? On 6/29/06, Cory Nott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Get on the horn. Get > >>involved. Take action. Or, whine and cry and bemoan the fact that you > are > >>legally obliged to sit back and get nothing done. That treaty will stand > >>until Bush gets around to disolving it. Until then, all you can do is > cry > me > >> a river, cry over spilled milk, cry sour grapes. Period. > > John, > > I'm very active. I don't need to defend what it is I do in the political > arena in order to take a principled stand against the redistribution of > wealth and the anti-property rights that are the hallmark of US (federal > and > local) government today. Whether it's huge defense budgets and hundreds of > billions in borrowing, or tiny little programs which are paid for by the > fruit of my labor without my permission, it's anti-liberty. > > What I find interesting is that after several emails defending your > favorite > program, you finally resort to the usual statist line that if I don't like > it, I should get active and get on the horn with my congress critters and > tell them to stop spending money that way. I take it that means that > anything that is approved by Congress is perfectly appropriate because we > didn't object to it enough? > > Did you get involved and take action when Bush was "appointed"? Or are you > just crying us a river? > > > >>As for selling away all your rights, you have ALREADY lost your rights > to > >>privacy, protection against illegal wiretaps, free speech and protection > >>against illegal seach and seizures. Did you make a peep??? I think not. > Bush > >>has wiped his butt with that lil' document called the Constitution, and > I'd > >> expect he will just keep on going till he is stopped. > > Apparently you know what I've done. Have you made a peep, John? > > I'm not worried about what the Ute receive. What I know is that the > government that can take my money to give to the Ute can take whatever it > wants from me to give to whomever it pleases. In the scheme of things, the > Ute treaty is miniscule, I agree, but the very fact that I'm paying for it > means that I am responsible for whatever else Congress decides I should > pay > for. You said you'd be honest, but you delivered strawmen again. Tell me > honestly, John, if you are a libertarian, where do you draw the line on > what > property and income is appropriate for the government to take from the > taxpayer. > > > >>Really? Hows about you tell me WHY privately owned land is a different > >>story? I think the answer would be very entertaining. land is > > You don't believe in private property? There is noone alive today who > acquired land from the Ute through coercion. Tell me how that is > entertaining. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- ******************************************************************* Are YOU Preparing For The November '06 Elections NOW??? ******************************************************************* http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Save-The-USA/ It is time to do something about all this! ******************************************************************* [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
