Yeah, we are square, actually I admire you for the work you do at such low pay.--- In [email protected], "John Stroebel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > If that is all you are wanting > > abnd not wanting to tap every taxpayer or lay a guilt trip on them I > > clearly owe you an > > apology. > > > It's OK Terry, it is a heated discussion. It is not the ideas that offend me > here....(not yours) it is the hardness of heart when money is concerned. You > seem to be a good hearted person. I hope we are square. > > On 6/27/06, terry12622000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ok I did the caps on purposed I was pissed for you saying I wanted > > those good people to go hungry for that you owe me an apolgy and it > > appears I may owe you one if all you are doing is calling for the > > government to live up to its contract. If that is all you are wanting > > abnd not wanting to tap every taxpayer or lay a guilt trip on them I > > clearly owe you an > > apology. > > If any of the others say the government should not live up to > > their contract then they are wrong although they would be right to > > say government programs are a piss poor way to pay a > > debt. > > You hear it from several of the big wigs elitest in the Slavery > > repreations movements calling for more nd more government programs > > instead of giving the victims heirs the money directly, of course the > > elitest want programs they are elitest snots who look down on their > > people and several are looking to line their own pockets not help > > black people.--- In [email protected]<Libertarian% 40yahoogroups.com>, > > "John Stroebel" > > > > <john.stroebel@> wrote: > > > > > > Hey pal, I am responding to remarks. Yours was ignored? Sorry. > > Guilt trip? > > > Why should I care one wit if you feel guilty? Your emotions do not > > change > > > this situation a bit. > > > > > > My replies were in response to strong suggestions that these people > > have > > > their aid cut off. They naively stated that the aid in itself was > > the > > > problem...as in, if your knee is shot out and that stops you from > > walking, > > > do not get it fixed, lop off the leg. > > > > > > Pay so much all America will feel the loss? Wow, that will be the > > day, won't > > > it? Pretty extreme. In fact, ridiculous. *Utterly* ridiculous. How > > did we go > > > from cut off their $400 a month (less than food stamps pays per > > person in > > > the rest of this country) to sacrifice enough to cause > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN TAXPAYER POOR, MODEST, > > > > > > MIDDLE AND HIGH INCOMES THROUGH CORESIVE TAXES > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > ???? > > > > > > GO back and read the first post, then come on back and rip me the > > new > > > one...but remember your caps lock in on first. Did I ever suggest > > anything > > > except to keep the contract they presently have and offer more > > educational > > > opportunities? If I did, show me. > > > > > > I have met a wall of 'Oh my, aid is bad bad bad and it should be > > stopped'. > > > When I informed that this would mean taking food from people who > > can not > > > even afford the simple necessities of life due to their placement > > in the > > > harshest place i have ever seen, I get the 'so what? it will be > > better than > > > AID!' speech. So keep the 'come off it' speech...it means zero to > > me what > > > you think. You want to be right? Go live there a year and see if > > you can > > > help out. It'll be an education for ya...THEN come on back and tell > > me how > > > wrong I am. > > > > > > YA know what troubles me about this theory? The 'fuck anyone who it > > hurts' > > > clause. You are talking human beings. Do any of YOU have trouble > > putting > > > food on the tables for YOUR 10 grandkids cause mommy and daddy drank > > > themselves dead, went to jail or skipped out? > > > > > > On 6/27/06, terry12622000 <cottondrop@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ok man, come off of it, at least 3 people, one of them me has > > said > > > > the federal government has not lived up to it's to its agreement > > but > > > > you haved completely failed to give us credit for that by > > responding > > > > in a decent way ( well in fact you have totally ignored > > > > that). > > > > YES THE GOVERNMENT OWES THE INDIANS BIG TIME.DO YOU SEE WHAT I > > > > AM WRITING NOW? SAYING THAT HOW CAN THE DEBT BE PAID AS MUCH AS > > > > POSSIBLE WITHOUT TAPPING EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN TAXPAYER POOR, > > MODEST, > > > > MIDDLE AND HIGH INCOMES THROUGH CORESIVE TAXES THUS CREATING MORE > > > > INJUSTICE? DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT ARE DO YOU JUST WANT TO > > > > MAKE GUILT TRIP SPEECHES?--- In > > [email protected] <Libertarian%40yahoogroups.com> > > <Libertarian%40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > > > "John > > > > > > > > Stroebel" <john.stroebel@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > but what are you wanting the average taxpayer or taxpayer of > > > > > > modest or little means or even the wealthy taxpayer who earned > > > > his or > > > > > > her money by honest non rent seeking means to do about it and > > why > > > > do > > > > > > you want them to pay up if that is what you are wanting, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I *want?* You seem to miss the big picture here. It is what > > > > they are * > > > > > owed*. There is a legally binding contract between them and the > > > > Federal > > > > > Government in place, *period*. THese people have nothing, and > > you > > > > want to > > > > > take the food from them, too. Sorry. Your finely sharpened > > sence of > > > > > 'practicality' and opinions on right and wrong do not touch the > > > > fact that > > > > > this is *a legal contract*. > > > > > > > > > > If you have a problem with that, petition your federal reps. > > They > > > > will get > > > > > to screwing these people again real soon I am sure anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ******************************************************************* > > > Are YOU Preparing For The November '06 Elections NOW??? > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Save-The-USA/ > > > > > > It is time to do something about all this! > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Are YOU Preparing For The November '06 Elections NOW??? > > ******************************************************************* > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Save-The-USA/ > > It is time to do something about all this! > > ******************************************************************* > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
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