Billy Mike I believe is dead for a while now. I knew Eddie Dutchie, who died 3 years back. He rented me his house. I knew Elaine (forget the last name) who stepped down. The Ute in Towaoc had some legal problems with a few of their Councilmen. mary Jane Yazzie was a friend, too. She lost her council seat right before I arived.
On 7/1/06, terry12622000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John did you know Billy Mike or any of the other elders?--- In > > [email protected] <Libertarian%40yahoogroups.com>, "John > Stroebel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > *To be a member of the Libertarian Party, one must sign a > > pledge "I oppose > > > the use of force or fraud to achieve social, economic, or > political > > > goals".* > > > > > > Well allow me to ask you this Mr Candidate... > > Isn't your loyalty oath in and of itself using force to reach a > political > > goal? > > > > And next...what happens when people refuse to sign your loyalty > oath....are > > they excluded from voting for a Libertarian Candidate? > > > > See, as far as I am concerned, this party politics garbage is part > of what > > is wrong with our system...and it is NOT written into our > Constitution. I > > personally vote for the PERSON not the PARTY. There are PLENTY of > lazy fools > > running for office, no one in particular referred to here, and > there are > > very very few patriotic, honest defenders of our Constitution > running. > > Eisenhower....proud honest man. Reagan, bought and paid for by big > business. > > You get the drift. > > > > So, tell me the answer to the dilemma...how does the pledge of > loyalty you > > promote work when people like me say that we don't need to sign > squat in > > order to vote for the person we choose? > > > > See, in the country I live in, we are FREE to vote however we > please. > > Republicans prove that by voting for criminals. Those criminals > would take > > away all our rights and ransom the country for their own profit. > Now I hear > > Libertarians require a signed statement. Does it end with 'Heil > (insert the > > name of your choice)'??? > > > > The way you describe things, it sounds 51% politics, 49% cult, > leaning > > toward cult. > > > > On 6/30/06, steven linnabary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "allie rodgers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<alliepoetesswitch% > 40yahoo.com> > > > > > > > > > > > im new to this group and debate but the statement here > says "Good! > > > Libertarianism is opposed to all gov welfare programs.Maybe it > will > > > stimulate more capitalistic enterprise." > > > > > > > > Does this mean that people who are down on their luck, shouldnt > take > > > gov. > > > welfare programs?? Some people arent enterpreneur types and this > just > > > doesnt > > > fit my belief system but wanted to understand more of what this > means? > > > > ALLIE > > > > > > > > > > To be a member of the Libertarian Party, one must sign a > pledge "I oppose > > > the use of force or fraud to achieve social, economic, or > political > > > goals". > > > > > > Every plank of the LP Platform conforms to this axiom. > > > > > > Because of this, most of us believe that any money the government > has was > > > stolen from it's (rightful) original owners. This means that most > > > government programs are immoral for this reason. > > > > > > In practice, does this mean that we oppose a persons right to > reclaim what > > > was stolen from him? For the most part, no. Because a person was > forced at > > > gunpoint to "donate" to the IRS (try not paying your taxes), that > person > > > should have the an equal right to try to get at least some of it > back. > > > Same > > > goes for Social Security or most any other government subdivision. > > > > > > Much has been written on libertarianism far more eloquently than > I can put > > > it. My own favorite sites are www.fff.org , www.mises.org , > > > www.antiwar.com > > > . I hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > PEACE > > > Steven R. Linnabary, Treasurer > > > Franklin County Libertarian Party > > > (614) 891-8841 > > > P.O.Box#115; Blacklick, OH 43004-0115 > > > > > > "When you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make violent > revolution > > > inevitable" John F. 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