John did you know Billy Mike or any of the other elders?--- In [email protected], "John Stroebel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > *To be a member of the Libertarian Party, one must sign a pledge "I oppose > > the use of force or fraud to achieve social, economic, or political > > goals".* > > > Well allow me to ask you this Mr Candidate... > Isn't your loyalty oath in and of itself using force to reach a political > goal? > > And next...what happens when people refuse to sign your loyalty oath....are > they excluded from voting for a Libertarian Candidate? > > See, as far as I am concerned, this party politics garbage is part of what > is wrong with our system...and it is NOT written into our Constitution. I > personally vote for the PERSON not the PARTY. There are PLENTY of lazy fools > running for office, no one in particular referred to here, and there are > very very few patriotic, honest defenders of our Constitution running. > Eisenhower....proud honest man. Reagan, bought and paid for by big business. > You get the drift. > > So, tell me the answer to the dilemma...how does the pledge of loyalty you > promote work when people like me say that we don't need to sign squat in > order to vote for the person we choose? > > See, in the country I live in, we are FREE to vote however we please. > Republicans prove that by voting for criminals. Those criminals would take > away all our rights and ransom the country for their own profit. Now I hear > Libertarians require a signed statement. Does it end with 'Heil (insert the > name of your choice)'??? > > The way you describe things, it sounds 51% politics, 49% cult, leaning > toward cult. > > On 6/30/06, steven linnabary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "allie rodgers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<alliepoetesswitch% 40yahoo.com> > > > > > > > > im new to this group and debate but the statement here says "Good! > > Libertarianism is opposed to all gov welfare programs.Maybe it will > > stimulate more capitalistic enterprise." > > > > > > Does this mean that people who are down on their luck, shouldnt take > > gov. > > welfare programs?? Some people arent enterpreneur types and this just > > doesnt > > fit my belief system but wanted to understand more of what this means? > > > ALLIE > > > > > > > To be a member of the Libertarian Party, one must sign a pledge "I oppose > > the use of force or fraud to achieve social, economic, or political > > goals". > > > > Every plank of the LP Platform conforms to this axiom. > > > > Because of this, most of us believe that any money the government has was > > stolen from it's (rightful) original owners. This means that most > > government programs are immoral for this reason. > > > > In practice, does this mean that we oppose a persons right to reclaim what > > was stolen from him? For the most part, no. Because a person was forced at > > gunpoint to "donate" to the IRS (try not paying your taxes), that person > > should have the an equal right to try to get at least some of it back. > > Same > > goes for Social Security or most any other government subdivision. > > > > Much has been written on libertarianism far more eloquently than I can put > > it. My own favorite sites are www.fff.org , www.mises.org , > > www.antiwar.com > > . I hope this helps. > > > > > > PEACE > > Steven R. Linnabary, Treasurer > > Franklin County Libertarian Party > > (614) 891-8841 > > P.O.Box#115; Blacklick, OH 43004-0115 > > > > "When you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make violent revolution > > inevitable" John F. Kennedy > > > > > > > > > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Are YOU Preparing For The November '06 Elections NOW??? > > ******************************************************************* > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Save-The-USA/ > > It is time to do something about all this! > > ******************************************************************* > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
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