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Yahoo (not me) shunted this message in to a 'spam' que for reasons unkown to 
me.  

John, did you perhaps post this message to multiple addresses?  

While this message was posted hours ago, I have just now discovered it, and 
released it for publication in the forum.  

I'll respond, as a poster not a moderator, to the message content later when I 
have a chance.   

-TLP  ]  


I never world Terry. I do not believe in reneging on treaties, abandoning
people in need when we are so wealthy a country, ending public education or
any of the rest. I believe the Government SHOULD provide for those things,
and until someone shows me a solid reason otherwise that proves to be more
compelling than providing those things for the public, I reject them.

As for providing for the national defence, that is covered in the
Constitution.

But Terry, reversing a question is a well used tactic in debate, isn't it.
IT taken you off the hook in answering and diverts the discussion to the
disadvantage of the person asking the original question.

It is not ME who endorses cutting taxes entirely, or throwing those in need
to the wolves, that would be the people posting here.

Now, care to answer my question?


On 7/2/06, Terry L Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>    John, since you would not advocate initiating, or doing a credible
> threat to initiate, physical force upon the person or justly held
> possessions of another, how would YOU do that which you regard as
> needed?
>
> -Terry Liberty Parker
> Humanity's Last Best Hope
> at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/48985
>
>
> --- In [email protected] <Libertarian%40yahoogroups.com>, "John
> Stroebel"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > OK Stephen, let's leave all that aside for a moment. Tell me this:
> how do
> > you propose running this country, building highways, caring for the
> sick,
> > keeping our treaties and agreements and providing or the national
> > defence....and education the population without taxing the citizens?
> >
> > Now please, don't give me any theory BS....like it should be this
> or is
> > should not be that....just tell me how a Libertarian President,
> should one
> > ever be elected, do these things?
> >
> > It seems to be the weak link in your entire platform.
> >
> >
> > On 7/1/06, steven linnabary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Stroebel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <john.stroebel%
> 40gmail.com>
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Well Mr Candidate, lack of education and stupidity, the word
> YOU choose
> > > for
> > > > good people you know NOTHING about, is apples and oranges. Do
> me a
> > > > favor....speak with a little dignity. Learn respect for these
> people. We
> > > > have far too many politicians who look down their noses at
> groups of
> > > > Americans.
> > >
> > > Huh?? I am not a candidate for anything at this time.
> > >
> > > My reference to "poor stupid Indians" was a condescending swipe
> at those
> > > that think they know what is best for other people. I think you
> know this.
> > > YOU chose to take the reference out of context.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > What does that 'hang around the fort' nonsence apply to" The
> Ute? Tell
> > > me
> > > > something,....WHAT do you personally know about the WHite Mesa
> Ute that
> > > I
> > > > haven't told you?
> > >
> > > Maybe nothing. I suppose it is theoretically possible that the Ute
> > > leadership doesn't "hang around the fort" seeking bigger handouts
> from
> > > their
> > > overseers.
> > >
> > >
> > > My guess would b 'squat'. It amazes me when people decide
> > > > what is best for others based on something they read or learned
> in a
> > > > theory....like 'all blacks are lazy' or 'all SIcilians are
> criminals'.
> > > That
> > > > is a pretty good example of ignorance. Before you cry over the
> word,
> > > check
> > > > the definition.
> > > >
> > >
> > > AHA!! YOU said "all blacks are lazy" and "all sicilians are
> criminals"!
> > >
> > > Out of context, of course. And I know that is not what you were
> trying to
> > > say. But two can play this game. I'll make a deal with you. You
> don't
> > > take me out of context, actually listen to what I say, and I'll
> do the
> > > same
> > > with you. Let's show each other a little respect. OK?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Oh...not having experience and being an ass....apples and
> oranges.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > As an aside, I helped to install the "American Indian" plank to
> the LP
> > > Platform back in '85. Larry Dodge actually wrote it, but it went
> a long
> > > way
> > > toward making Russell Means a Libertarian candidate for POTUS
> in '87.
> > >
> > >
> > > PEACE
> > > Steven R. Linnabary, Treasurer
> > > Franklin County Libertarian Party
> > > (614) 891-8841
> > > P.O.Box#115; Blacklick, OH 43004-0115
> > >
> > > "When you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make violent
> revolution
> > > inevitable" John F. Kennedy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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> >
> > It is time to do something about all this!
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
>
>  
>



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