I happen to be one who think the prebait is the least of our worries, 
in fact I think we would be much better off ending all the federal 
transfer programs and go with a citizens dividend, which would have 
an added beneift of  giving the anti immigrant conservatives one more 
excuse to holler about since a non citizen would get nothing.  I 
don't like Charles Murrays plan in his book " In Our Hands" because 
it includes big brother id methods and health insurance mandates and 
health insurance company regulations but his book provides some good 
stats and a good case for going with the Citizens Dividend instead of 
going down the path of the present welfare 
state.                                
     Murray plan also includes doing away with state programs but he 
refuses to tacial public schools which is a big mistake. With the per 
student spending in the US being over 8,800 per student it would be 
much better just to cut the parents of 2 a check for 17,600 dollars 
on top of their 20,000 dollar citizen 
dividend.                               
        With a  sales tax and the CD only the very upper middle class 
and rich would actually pay the tax. If  the sales tax was 30% and a 
family CD was say 37,600 dollars, the CD would cover the tax up to  
over 125,000 dollars a year in spending on services and new goods, 
they would have to spend 250,000 a year on services and new goods 
before they actually had to pay 
30%.                                     
   As usual a single person would not come out near as good, if he 
got a 10,000 dollar CD, it would cover the tax on spending only up 
to  a bit up over 33,000 dollars and he would start to be taxed at 
30% at a bit over 67,000 in spending and if he was divorced with kids 
under Murrays plan the CD would be forwared to his exwife even if she 
remarried.--- In [email protected], "Thomas L. Knapp" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Quoth Boyd W. Smith:
> 
> -----
> The fair tax one is really good as an interim measure prior to
> eliminating all taxation.
> -----
> 
> The "Fair" Taxers propose a revenue-neutral tax, which means that it
> doesn't cut taxes.
> 
> Furthermore, the "Fair" Taxers propose that every American receive a
> check from the government every month as a "rebate."
> 
> I'm not sure how putting every man, woman and child in America on
> welfare as a part of the tax code is supposed to be an "interim
> measure" toward eliminating that tax code. Once those checks start
> coming, every American who thinks he is getting over somehow -- 
which
> will be most of them -- will howl like a stuck pig versus any 
proposal
> that might STOP the checks from coming.
> 
> One talking point is "eliminating the IRS," but that won't happen.
> There will still need to be a compliance enforcement function, and
> there will be an army of bureaucrats to cut the welfare checks. It 
may
> be dispersed among other branches of government, but that will just
> make it HARDER to eliminate rather than actually eliminating it.
> 
> The "Fair" Tax is even worse than the existing system in just about
> every way imaginable. 
> 
> Tom Knapp
>







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