Vic, As far as I am concerned, the NAP is not a bilateral-only proposition. Both sides need not hold the same position in order for one side to apply it. If you feel (as a nation or an individual) that you can not apply the NAP alone, then you don't understand the onus of the principle. The onus is not on the other side to apply non-aggression first; it is on your side to apply it first. I think your confusion lies in your definitions. Please see TLP's post just now, and repeated often; read it closely. Applying the NAP does not rule out self defense against "the INITIATION, or credible threat of initiation, of physical force against" your side or its justly held possessions.
Although I think your intention is to find a solution to the problem of aggression, the method you seem to advocate is not a good one. And when it comes to human aggression, a bad solution is often an exacerbation. All libertarian positions are based on this non-aggression principle. I imagine the basis of your acceptance of some of them is the same. This should suggest to you that your exclusion of the NAP (as you have worded it) is inconsistent. -Mark ++++++++++++++ as far as I am concerned NAP is a bilateral proposition, not a unilateral proposition. that means both sides must hold the same position and agree to it. otherwise all bets are off. you can not apply NAP one sided. nor should you have any form of truce with a country that violates principles of freedom, thats like a pact with the devil. thats unacceptable. yet NAP seems to be commonly interepreted as an excuse to do nothing, hide and run, stay uninvolved show no compasion and offer no help nor come to anyones aid whose freedoms are being brutalised. how did this one sided view of freedom ever come about? its just so disapointing to me, to see the LP having devolved to a party of no action, no initiative and no give a shit. Vic ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
