But it very much implied though.I'm sorry you feel you're coming off another way.
1. You didn't get my point.We are killing more Iraq civilians the longer we stay. And people can be optimistic in any situation again it doesn't change whats actually going on. 2. People will die yes but it doesn't make it why they died right. I have known a number people that are middle eastern descent...Well the one example I'll give of someone I knew: He was Muslim and he came over from I think Afghanistan but his family is wealthy anyway...he came to Houston to go to college. He wasn't a bad guy. Judgmental yes, bad not so much.But he did understand that I had my own beliefs & he can certainly have his own but that doesn't mean I will agree with him or follow what his religion says.To say all of one race is "evil" becuase of where there from is just stupid and short sided considering everyone is diffrent. 3.Government level. But then again...you give people power and they will take advantage. meh... Wendie _________________________________________________________________ --- In [email protected], "Bob Giramma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I did not say the US should be the world police. Instead, I said, "The role of the US government / military is to serve the > interests of Americans, not [others]." In many cases, we can't prevent innocent people from dying. It's just a choice of which people die, ours or theirs. You don't stop the killing by ignoring it. There are a lot of harmful governments out there. Most countries are not like Switzerland. > > 1. Polls show the Iraqi people are optimistic about their future. It's clear they participate quite enthusiastically in their elections. Do you really think the goal of the US military is to "kill more [Iraqi] people"? The military members I know are not sadistic. > > 2. Again, people will die. There were wars and murders long before there was a US military. Note that Western Europe is in perhaps its longest period of peace and prosperity, ever since the US military blasted the Nazis and fascists out of existence. We kept the communists out, too. It's not our job to do so, but it shows we are not invading countries just to kill innocent people. All the Americans I know wish the best for people liberated by US forces. I am highly critical of Islamic culture, but I genuinely wish them peace and prosperity to the extent they are at least benign towards Americans. I'm confident there are many -- probably most -- individual Middle East Muslims who would do me no harm. But they should keep their distance from the political and religious leaders who act against American interests. > > 3. Are you talking about spending the money "better" at the government or individual level? Personally, I'd like the federal government out of everything that's not constitutionally authorized security and justice. > > > From: Wendie Slovak > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Stop the War FOR Terror > > > Are we now the world police and every country needs to be like ours? > > So you're saying more innocent people should die? > > 1.I know that. Also aren't we over there still to help the Iraqis? Or > is it to kill more people....it really makes me wonder. > 2.Yes I know that to.For me personally it makes me sick that so many > young people are dieing becuase of this war.I don't really care what > reason they joined the military in the first place weather it be to go > to war,college or to travel. > 3.No,what I was trying to say we should spend the money better rather > then wasting it on war. > > Wendie > __________________________________________________________ > --- In [email protected], "Bob Giramma" <evil_spock@> wrote: > > > > I don't think anyone is talking about a war in Iran -- at least not > like that in Iraq. We now know that civilizing Middle East Muslims is > as difficult as herding cats -- but more violent. They are culturally > incapable of civilized government. > > > > The objectives with Iran would be 1) eliminate their nuclear weapons > program, and 2) make them pay a price for killing Americans and > otherwise disrupting life in Iraq. Just bomb the hell out of them, > then leave. There's plenty of sand for them to pound thereafter. > > > > In response to your enumerated points below: > > 1. The role of the US government / military is to serve the > interests of Americans, not Iraqis. > > 2. Every soldier in the US military is a volunteer who knew about > Iraq prior to his or her enlistment or last reenlistment. > > 3. Are you proposing to take the tax dollars spent on the military > -- a primary government institution -- and spend those dollars on > welfare state programs? > > > > > > From: Wendie Slovak > > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 1:10 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Stop the War FOR Terror > > > > > > I see no reason why we should go make a war in Iran. I think its > > stupid were in Iraq still. The war pisses me off for a number of > > reasons: 1.To many Iraq civilians have died. 2.To many people my age > > and old are fighting in the war and have been killed. 3.We are wasting > > our money when it could take care of people here. > > > > Wendie > > __________________________________________________________ > > --- In [email protected], Emil R.Wolanski <leftyemil@> wrote: > > > > > > Stop the War FOR Terror > > > > > > The Bush Administration is threatening war to stop Iran from > > developing nuclear weapons. Such a war would drive more Muslims toward > > terrorism. It would be a war for terrorism instead of a war against > > terrorism. We should do in Iran what we should have done in Iraq. We > > should return to our traditional policy of deterrence. Please join me > > in asking Congress to pass a resolution opposing a Presidential attack > > on Iran, and asking them to restore the traditional policy of > > deterrence. You can do so by clicking here: > > http://action.downsizedc.org/wyc.php?cid=54. > > > > > > Thought I'd forward this on. > > > > > > Come to DownsizeDC.org to learn more: > > > http://action.downsizedc.org/wyc.php?cid=54 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
