You're right. The Israelis should just stop fighting and let the Arab savages slaughter them.
Then there will be all that peace, freedom, and prosperity that primitive peoples are so good at. From: Peter Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 9:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Stop the War FOR Terror "I read elsewhere the US loses many points for its quasi-police state policies associated with the wars" No the freedom index I believe has to do with inside the borders. But I'd look closer to your home, Patriot Act, RICO, Draconian drug laws. Should I go on? "Israel would be ranked far higher if they didn't have war imposed on them every day of their existence" Much of this war is their own making. Especialy in recent years, even many Israelis are speaking out about this and its caused a lot of political splits. "Switzerland is fortunate to be surrounded by advanced and civilized people these days, making freedom a lot easier" You are distracting again. I mean after all, your right. The US and Canada are such ominous neighbors. And surely the UK has nasty neighbors.... Bordering countries has little to do with the index at all, except maybe in cases like Israel, but again much of that is self brought. They treat the Palestinians like sub humans with US weapons. Ie they drop bombs and rockets all the time in Palestine and often kill whole familes of innocents, but how dare a Palestinian fight back with a bomb on themselves - then the Israelis cry foul. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Giramma To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:27 AM Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Stop the War FOR Terror I read elsewhere the US loses many points for its quasi-police state policies associated with the wars. That's typical of all nations at war, as they tighten up security in response to threats -- both real and perceived. For example, Israel would be ranked far higher if they didn't have war imposed on them every day of their existence. Switzerland is fortunate to be surrounded by advanced and civilized people these days, making freedom a lot easier. From: Peter Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 6:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Stop the War FOR Terror And if you look at the Indiividual Freedom rank, US is down at 19.... and several are tied at higher levels, so its 19th rank, not even 19th country. Not very imporessive! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Giramma To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Stop the War FOR Terror It looks like the US does quite well in the liberty rankings: http://www.stateofworldliberty.org/report/rankings.html http://www.freetheworld.com/ef_map.html The Middle East Muslim nations, not so well. Switzerland has conscription military service. From: Peter Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 8:13 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Stop the War FOR Terror ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Giramma To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Stop the War FOR Terror Yeah, Patriot act... Not to mention how foreigners are treated. Guantanamo Bay? Waterboarding? Need I go on? You are looking through some very heavily fogged glasses here. Look at freedom rankings etc. The US not only is not at the top, but is going down the list in recent years. You should be looking at Switzerland and others instead. . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Click for free info on college degrees. http://ads.lavabit.com/fc/Ioyw6kdba23sbzoRlYa4ehCEQoBUCzxqYreCysrI0UBxercEdwWj4i/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Visa, MasterCard, AMEX & Discover. Compare Offers & Apply Online. Click here! http://ads.lavabit.com/fc/Ioyw6kdcUnfgpVjQwGarakwkZeh5SEIX2lyZGWHcsWG78SIlqPmo8e/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
