On 02-Dec-04, Travis Pahl wrote:

 s>> There is HUGE dissension within the GOP right now over the bloated
 s>> budget.

 TP> That is great.  Somehow I have little faith that the limited government
 TP> ones will win.  Why?  Becuase I have heard this all before. It is a
 TP> show they put on to convince people they are the limited government
 TP> party. After they the show has been running long enough for people to
 TP> notice, they will stop the show, increase spending and the cycle will
 TP> continue.

Aside from the past three years, when has a GOP-controlled Congress done
this?

 s>> You're both right, but I believe Robert sees the raising of the debt
 s>> limit as syptomatic rather than causitive. Failure to raise that limit
 s>> would have caused serious problems with govt bonds and the falling
 s>> dollar would plummet.

 TP> No.  the increases in spending cause that....

But not with the speed of a govt default on its bonds.

 TP>>> ... it just shows who people voted for between two nearly identical
 TP>>> candidates that most voters thought were the only real choice.

 s>> They WERE the only two choices for people who insist upon voting for a
 s>> candidate with a chance to win.

 TP> right.  But there is more to an election that picking a winner....

Agreed.

 s>> The majorities in the blue pockets are people who LIKE govt spending.

 TP> They should start voting for the republicans.  They have increased
 TP> spending far more than the democrats have....

But the Democrats have a long, colorful history of spending, whereas the GOP
is relatively new at it. Why do you think most govt employees are militantly
Democratic?

 TP> I am well aware of where all the media is available.  My point merely
 TP> was that there is mass media that is republican freindly and calls for
 TP> decreased spending....

I don't think that one cable channel and a handful of talk show hosts qualify
as "mass media."

 TP> ... The republican voters listen to and watch it alot, and yet the
 TP> republican politicians ignore it and pay attention to blue media.

The blue media control the polls.

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