Ted Husted wrote:
>
> "Geir Magnusson Jr." wrote:
> > The best solution, I think, is the most minimal and open one, and as I
> > see it, the most open one is simply a Jakarta project that acts as a
> > container for independent Jakarta mini-projects.
>
> That's what we're doing -- in exactly the same what that tagblibs is a
> container for custom tag mini-projects.
So then the above is *not* what we're doing - we are doing a tablibs
model, not a jakarta model. They are different, and I would argue the
jakarta model is preferable, as you can implement the taglibs model
under jakarta model as a self-ruling entity (like Taglibs is under
Jakarta), but the converse isn't true - you can't have a 'Jakarta zone'
under the taglibs model.
> The only functional difference between a Commons package and a Jakarta
> product is whether you have to vote a committer into * other * packages.
It's not the only difference, and it is a big difference. No one has
explained what is wrong with the conventional jakarta model, why it has
to be changed.
I interpret that as a guidance / control difference - the people
dedicated to working on a component can have their actions vetoed by
*anyone* without the conventional requirement that the vetoer have a
demonstrated understanding of and investment in what is being vetoed by
being a part of the component's committer set.
There is also a CVS difference, as the components aren't separated into
distinct CVS spaces.
There is a user-community difference.
Documentation might be a tad challenging.
etc
> One other small difference is that we're putting new packages up to a
> vote by all the Commons committers, rather than a PMC board.
That's cool. I don't see a problem with that. But then when you
approve a component and the initial committers, get out of the way - let
the component 'owners' do their thing. The taglibs model does that
through a cultural understanding ( I assume ), rather than the
organizational guidelines.
> In both cases, we're probably just ahead of the curve, and Jakarta
> itself will probably be doing the same things eventually.
Hm. Not sure about that, but I haven't been hanging around Jakarta
enough to know.
geir
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